What do I need to add to turn threads

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29 Mar 2017 20:02 #90520 by MAG45
I am about to rebuild my shopmaster eldorado which was converted to CNC several years ago, but has had issues the last couple years. I havent been able to figure out the issues and decided it will be easier to start from scratch and build it myself.

When I do this I want to add a reluctor wheel or whatever is needed for LinuxCNC to read RPM and be able to turn threads.

Any suggestions on what to get and how it should be integrated? And advice on setting up the config?

Or links to info on this topic, i have had no luck finding anything relevant.

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29 Mar 2017 20:53 #90522 by BigJohnT
You need an encoder with an index pulse once per rev of the spindle. For rigid tapping you need a differential encoder.

JT

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29 Mar 2017 21:11 - 29 Mar 2017 21:41 #90523 by MAG45
Thanks, Can you share a link to get me looking in the right direction?

would this work if i made a sensor disk with a single slot/hole?

www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Slotted-Optical-Swit...f:g:W-QAAOSwyZ5Ungn9
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29 Mar 2017 21:46 #90524 by BigJohnT
Don't have a clue if that will work and don't know what a shopmaster eldorado is. I don't think a single slot would work you need an A and B and a single Z (index) per rev. Have you looked in the Documents in the Hardware Examples section? Do a google search for rotary encoder.

JT

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29 Mar 2017 21:59 - 29 Mar 2017 22:01 #90525 by MAG45
ElDorado is a 3in1 mill/lathe I am using steppers to drive the axis. Everything I have read confuses me more so I thought i would ask here. I found some threads with this type sensor being used, but not much info on how.
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29 Mar 2017 22:07 - 29 Mar 2017 22:09 #90526 by BigJohnT
Did you read the Hardware Examples section of the Documents?

linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/examples/spin...ml#_spindle_feedback

Looks like you need A and Z to single point thread.

JT
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29 Mar 2017 22:13 #90527 by MAG45
okay, i didnt find those documents, i will do some reading

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30 Mar 2017 15:08 #90569 by andypugh
It is possible to thread with just a single pulse-per-rev. It is better to have more, but you do always need the single-pulse-per-rev channel.
Does the lathe have any gears on the spindle? You can add a gear-tooth sensor to get several pulses per rev, and possibly use a second (or third) sensor on a keyway to get the once-per-rev pulse.

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30 Mar 2017 16:34 #90580 by MAG45
The lathe is run from a series of belts, the only gears we the original threading gear set up which i never used.

here is what im dealing with
drive.google.com/open?id=10P6yM2mA6uabLPSY8lxa_EZj_yo1x0sl3A

and this is the controller mess i need to redo and clean up
drive.google.com/open?id=1lWs5Ii5x4ljl0JxhRheHjJOPeuD7fFSzcQ

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30 Mar 2017 16:58 #90582 by andypugh
Is that a Mesa 7i43 in the bottom left?

And, what ratio to the spindle speed do the two unused threading gears turn at?

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