Tool Changer

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20 May 2011 21:19 - 22 Oct 2012 11:49 #9956 by BigJohnT
BigJohnT created the topic: Tool Changer
On my Hardinge CHNC I have an 8 station tool turret. I was always fumbling around to spin the turret to put a tool in or change an insert when it hit me I needed some buttons on my pyvcp panel to do that for me. The advantage is on click tool changes and I don't have to leave the manual screen.

The XML to create the buttons
<pyvcp>
<labelframe text="Tool Changer">
<font>("Helvetica",16)</font>
    <hbox>
      <button>
      <halpin>"tool-1"</halpin>
      <text>"T1"</text>
      <bd>3</bd>
      </button>
      <button>
      <halpin>"tool-2"</halpin>
      <text>"T2"</text>
      <bd>3</bd>
      </button>
      <button>
      <halpin>"tool-3"</halpin>
      <text>"T3"</text>
      <bd>3</bd>
      </button>
      <button>
      <halpin>"tool-4"</halpin>
      <text>"T4"</text>
      <bd>3</bd>
      </button>
    </hbox>

    <hbox>
      <button>
      <halpin>"tool-5"</halpin>
      <text>"T5"</text>
      <bd>3</bd>
      </button>
      <button>
      <halpin>"tool-6"</halpin>
      <text>"T6"</text>
      <bd>3</bd>
      </button>
      <button>
      <halpin>"tool-7"</halpin>
      <text>"T7"</text>
      <bd>3</bd>
      </button>
      <button>
      <halpin>"tool-8"</halpin>
      <text>"T8"</text>
      <bd>3</bd>
      </button>
    </hbox>
  </labelframe>
<pyvcp>

The Post GUI hal file entries
# MDI Commands
net tool-1 halui.mdi-command-00 <= pyvcp.tool-1
net tool-2 halui.mdi-command-01 <= pyvcp.tool-2
net tool-3 halui.mdi-command-02 <= pyvcp.tool-3
net tool-4 halui.mdi-command-03 <= pyvcp.tool-4
net tool-5 halui.mdi-command-04 <= pyvcp.tool-5
net tool-6 halui.mdi-command-05 <= pyvcp.tool-6
net tool-7 halui.mdi-command-06 <= pyvcp.tool-7
net tool-8 halui.mdi-command-07 <= pyvcp.tool-8

The ini file entries (if you don't have the HALUI section just add it)
[HALUI]
# MDI commands
MDI_COMMAND = T1 M6 G43
MDI_COMMAND = T2 M6 G43
MDI_COMMAND = T3 M6 G43
MDI_COMMAND = T4 M6 G43
MDI_COMMAND = T5 M6 G43
MDI_COMMAND = T6 M6 G43
MDI_COMMAND = T7 M6 G43
MDI_COMMAND = T8 M6 G43

The Screen Shot of the buttons.

John
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24 May 2011 20:08 #10034 by andypugh
andypugh replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
Looks familiar. :-)

I have very similar buttons on my lathe config.
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30 Jan 2012 20:58 - 30 Jan 2012 21:24 #17281 by submicro
submicro replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
Forgive the newbie questions but where does the xml go? Does it go in the .stepconf file? What I really want is to figure out the joypad one but i'm starting small..

Submicro

I thought I figured it out but I cannot get it to work I copied the xml portion to my custompanel.xml file but it causes a fatal error.
Last Edit: 30 Jan 2012 21:24 by submicro.
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30 Jan 2012 21:09 - 31 Jan 2012 01:44 #17282 by submicro
submicro replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
Sorry I reread the integrators manual and I figured out what I was doing wrong. I know I know RTFM!
I get in a hurry sometimes thanks anyway :-)
SubMicro
Last Edit: 31 Jan 2012 01:44 by submicro.
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20 Oct 2012 15:32 #25485 by tkamsker
tkamsker replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
Hi
I am quite sucessful (due to the forum ;)-
With the toolchanger
But i followed your example to automate the 12 Buttons ,..
When it starts i can see the buttons but then i get an error
it tells me that the command is not valid "net too1-1 halui.mdi-command-00 <= pyvcp.tool-1"

is it possible that something between 2.4 and 2.5 has changed ? Due to another thread i was under the impression that 2.5 will eliminate the need of the o<ww> call command after Tx M6
but thats another story ;)
So if anybody has an hint for me it would be nice
thx
thomas :S
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20 Oct 2012 17:10 #25492 by andypugh
andypugh replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
tkamsker wrote:

When it starts i can see the buttons but then i get an error
it tells me that the command is not valid "net too1-1 halui.mdi-command-00 <= pyvcp.tool-1"

What are the exact words?
My guess is that you don't have the MDI commands defined in the INI file.

Due to another thread i was under the impression that 2.5 will eliminate the need of the o<ww> call command after Tx M6
but thats another story ;)

That's "remapping" and isn't due until 2.6 (2.5.1 is the current released version)

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20 Oct 2012 22:05 #25509 by BigJohnT
BigJohnT replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
Yuck, did I actually call that signal too1-1 or is it a typo for tool-1?

John
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21 Oct 2012 12:58 #25540 by tkamsker
tkamsker replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
Hi,
oh my bad ,...
sorry it seems standing freehand at the machine (no internet there ) i made an typo

But i corrected it and now it should be exact as your example ,..

But linuxcnc is still not happy unknown command ? (so i milled the pcbs "manually" using the atc ... so the scripts and rest setup works fine.

Error Reads like this
Print file information:
RUN_IN_PLACE=no
LINUXCNC_DIR=
LINUXCNC_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin
LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR=/usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc
LINUXCNC_SCRIPT_DIR=
LINUXCNC_RTLIB_DIR=/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/linuxcnc
LINUXCNC_CONFIG_DIR=
LINUXCNC_LANG_DIR=/usr/share/linuxcnc/tcl/msgs
INIVAR=inivar
HALCMD=halcmd
LINUXCNC_EMCSH=/usr/bin/wish8.5
LINUXCNC - 2.5.1
Machine configuration directory is '/home/tkamsker/linuxcnc/configs/Heiz400T-3WZW'
Machine configuration file is 'Heiz400T-3WZW.ini'
INIFILE=/home/tkamsker/linuxcnc/configs/Heiz400T-3WZW/Heiz400T-3WZW.ini
PARAMETER_FILE=linuxcnc.var
TASK=milltask
HALUI=halui
DISPLAY=axis
Starting LinuxCNC...
Starting LinuxCNC server program: linuxcncsvr
Loading Real Time OS, RTAPI, and HAL_LIB modules
Starting LinuxCNC IO program: io
Starting HAL User Interface program: halui
Starting TASK program: milltask
Starting DISPLAY program: axis
Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC...
Killing task linuxcncsvr, PID=1834
Killing task milltask, PID=1881
Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules
Removing NML shared memory segments
Cleanup done

Debug file information:
Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1
Can not find -sec IO -var IO -num 1
Can not find -sec LINUXCNC -var NML_FILE -num 1
Can not find -sec EMC -var NML_FILE -num 1
custom_postgui.hal:4: Unknown command 'net tool-1 halui.mdi-command-00 <= pyvcp.tool-1'
1834
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
1881
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components

Kernel message information:
[ 667.102407] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[ 667.102420] RTAI[hal]: <3.8.1> mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03.
[ 667.102423] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) .
[ 667.102432] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[ 667.102435] PIPELINE layers:
[ 667.102439] f9165e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200
[ 667.102443] c085cb20 0 Linux 100
[ 667.131743] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
[ 667.131959] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: <with RTAI OWN KTASKs>, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[ 667.131967] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/8311960(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists.
[ 667.131971] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 2925916000 hz.
[ 667.131975] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2944 ns.
[ 667.132168] RTAI[usi]: enabled.
[ 667.263218] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[ 667.373495] config string '0x378 out '
[ 673.272798] RTAI[math]: unloaded.
[ 673.372537] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH
[ 673.389231] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
[ 673.488040] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0).
[ 673.493095] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered.
[ 673.493108] RTAI[hal]: unmounted.


So any hint would be nice or an link to an how to
thx in advance
thomas
Ps: I do have a working pendant using arduino ,... so if someone is interested ,.. (it is work in progress )
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21 Oct 2012 14:33 #25545 by ArcEye
ArcEye replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
Andy Pugh wrote:

My guess is that you don't have the MDI commands defined in the INI file.


or you don't have the .xml file in your .ini file under
[DISPLAY]
PYVCP = custom_postgui.xml

You are trying to link 2 things, so one or both of them must be missing

regards
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21 Oct 2012 15:26 #25551 by BigJohnT
BigJohnT replied the topic: Re:Tool Changer
That was my typo and copy and paste error not yours.

John
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