Can't get zero to be up on Z axis

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11 years 11 months ago #53475 by yoshimitsuspeed
I have tried every combination I can think of in stepconf but cannot get zero to be all the way up and instead is all the way down.
For some reason this wasn't an issue with cambam and some of the other CAM I have used but it is a problem in fusion360 because it tells the z axis to go to zero at the beginning and end of the Gcode.
I have been editing the g code every time I save a file and just telling it to go to 150mm instead of zero. 1. it's a bit of a pain in the A. 2. I know I am going to forget some day and crash my machine.
It makes sense that zero and home should be all the way up anyway but I just can't get it to do it.
I reversed the Z direction in stepconf but then it runs the opposite direction that it thinks it is. So then I reversed the lead screw pitch and once again zero is at the bottom.
What do I do to flip this?

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11 years 11 months ago #53476 by cmorley
Seems to me you have a couple things going on here.
You want zero at the top of travel with stepconf and we can help you do that but that is only for setting the MACHINE origin.
Machine origin is a reference point for such things as soft limits and as a base reference for all the user coordinate systems.

When machining a part you should be setting the USER COORDINATE origin (generally G54) by 'touch off'.
That will allow you to put zero anywhere inside the limits.

In stepconf for Z axis a setting of 'table travel -4 to 0' and a 'home switch location' setting of 0 should give you machine origin / home switch at the top.
obviously if your travel is more or less then -4 then adjust...

Please post your INI file if that doesn't help.

Chris M

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11 years 11 months ago #53478 by cmorley
I might add that as the tool and table get closer together the readout should get more negative.

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11 years 11 months ago #53483 by andypugh

yoshimitsuspeed wrote: it is a problem in fusion360 because it tells the z axis to go to zero at the beginning and end of the Gcode.


If that isn't configurable then Fusion is broken....

Have you configured a safe-height and retract-height?

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11 years 11 months ago #53495 by yoshimitsuspeed

cmorley wrote: I might add that as the tool and table get closer together the readout should get more negative.


I tried this when setting up the machine originally with the CAM I was trying at that time.
If I remember right that didn't work because linuxcnc said the program exceeded the machines range of travel.
But you are saying it should be okay if the machine starts at zero at the top then goes negative as it goes lower. If that's the case maybe I can play with that again and find settings that will work.

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11 years 11 months ago #53496 by yoshimitsuspeed

andypugh wrote:

yoshimitsuspeed wrote: it is a problem in fusion360 because it tells the z axis to go to zero at the beginning and end of the Gcode.


If that isn't configurable then Fusion is broken....

Have you configured a safe-height and retract-height?


That was my original thought and I think you guys said something similar when I mentioned this a while back in one of my other threads however when I posted on the Autodesk forums they made it sound like my machine should absolutely zero and home at the top.
Now I could set my home location at 150mm or whatever fully retracted is but is there any advantage to having it zero at the top? Would this be more technically correct? Is it standard practice to have zero all the way up then go negative as it goes down?
I would like to set up this machine as close to any general practice standards as possible.

I will bring this up on the Autodesk forums as well as it does seem like there should be more config control over settings like this.

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11 years 11 months ago #53499 by yoshimitsuspeed

cmorley wrote: Seems to me you have a couple things going on here.
You want zero at the top of travel with stepconf and we can help you do that but that is only for setting the MACHINE origin.
Machine origin is a reference point for such things as soft limits and as a base reference for all the user coordinate systems.

When machining a part you should be setting the USER COORDINATE origin (generally G54) by 'touch off'.
That will allow you to put zero anywhere inside the limits.


Let me clarify a little more using the code F360 spits out.
Code:
% (1) (T14 D=10. CR=0. - ZMIN=-32.2 - FLAT END MILL) N10 G90 G94 G17 G91.1 N15 G21 N20 G53 G0 Z0. (BORE1) N25 M9 N30 T14 M6 N35 S5000 M3 N40 G54 N45 M8 N55 G0 X0.113 Y19.071 N60 G43 Z15. H14 N555 X4.057 Y8.151 Z-31.2 N560 G0 Z15. N570 M9 N575 G53 Z0. N580 M30 %
I deleted a bunch of code from the middle because it was not relevant.

So I set up the machine origins by manually homing it. Hope to have auto home at some point but not yet.

Then I set my user origins by touching off.

The code above is as F360 spits it out.
Code:
N20 G53 G0 Z0.
At the beginning and
Code:
N575 G53 Z0.
at the end drive the Z axis all the way down to machine origin zero.

So I go in and change the code to
Code:
N20 G53 G0 Z150.
And
Code:
N575 G53 Z150.
and then the machine retracts up and runs fine.

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11 years 11 months ago #53500 by yoshimitsuspeed
Here is the post process config file if it helps. Maybe I can just change this in here and be good to go?
Code:
/** Copyright (C) 2012-2013 by Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved. Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) post processor configuration. $Revision: 37972 $ $Date: 2014-10-18 23:40:07 +0200 (lø, 18 okt 2014) $ FORKID {52A5C3D6-1533-413e-B493-7B93D9E48B30} */ description = "Generic Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"; vendor = "Autodesk, Inc."; vendorUrl = "http://www.autodesk.com"; legal = "Copyright (C) 2012-2013 by Autodesk, Inc."; certificationLevel = 2; minimumRevision = 24000; extension = "ngc"; setCodePage("ascii"); tolerance = spatial(0.002, MM); minimumChordLength = spatial(0.01, MM); minimumCircularRadius = spatial(0.01, MM); maximumCircularRadius = spatial(1000, MM); minimumCircularSweep = toRad(0.01); maximumCircularSweep = toRad(180); allowHelicalMoves = true; allowedCircularPlanes = undefined; // allow any circular motion // user-defined properties properties = { writeMachine: true, // write machine writeTools: true, // writes the tools preloadTool: true, // preloads next tool on tool change if any showSequenceNumbers: true, // show sequence numbers sequenceNumberStart: 10, // first sequence number sequenceNumberIncrement: 5, // increment for sequence numbers optionalStop: true, // optional stop separateWordsWithSpace: true, // specifies that the words should be separated with a white space useRadius: false, // specifies that arcs should be output using the radius (R word) instead of the I, J, and K words. useParametricFeed: false, // specifies that feed should be output using Q values showNotes: false // specifies that operation notes should be output. }; var useG28 = false; var permittedCommentChars = " ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789.,=_-"; var mapCoolantTable = new Table( [9, 8, 7], {initial:COOLANT_OFF, force:true}, "Invalid coolant mode" ); var gFormat = createFormat({prefix:"G", decimals:1}); var mFormat = createFormat({prefix:"M", decimals:1}); var hFormat = createFormat({prefix:"H", decimals:1}); var dFormat = createFormat({prefix:"D", decimals:1}); var xyzFormat = createFormat({decimals:(unit == MM ? 3 : 4), forceDecimal:true}); var rFormat = xyzFormat; // radius var abcFormat = createFormat({decimals:3, forceDecimal:true, scale:DEG}); var feedFormat = createFormat({decimals:(unit == MM ? 2 : 3), forceDecimal:true}); var pitchFormat = createFormat({decimals:(unit == MM ? 3 : 4), forceDecimal:true}); var toolFormat = createFormat({decimals:0}); var rpmFormat = createFormat({decimals:0}); var secFormat = createFormat({decimals:3, forceDecimal:true}); // seconds - range 0.001-99999.999 var taperFormat = createFormat({decimals:1, scale:DEG}); var xOutput = createVariable({prefix:"X"}, xyzFormat); var yOutput = createVariable({prefix:"Y"}, xyzFormat); var zOutput = createVariable({prefix:"Z"}, xyzFormat); var aOutput = createVariable({prefix:"A"}, abcFormat); var bOutput = createVariable({prefix:"B"}, abcFormat); var cOutput = createVariable({prefix:"C"}, abcFormat); var feedOutput = createVariable({prefix:"F"}, feedFormat); var sOutput = createVariable({prefix:"S", force:true}, rpmFormat); var dOutput = createVariable({}, dFormat); // circular output var iOutput = createReferenceVariable({prefix:"I", force:true}, xyzFormat); var jOutput = createReferenceVariable({prefix:"J", force:true}, xyzFormat); var kOutput = createReferenceVariable({prefix:"K", force:true}, xyzFormat); var gMotionModal = createModal({}, gFormat); // modal group 1 // G0-G3, ... var gPlaneModal = createModal({onchange:function () {gMotionModal.reset();}}, gFormat); // modal group 2 // G17-19 var gAbsIncModal = createModal({}, gFormat); // modal group 3 // G90-91 var gFeedModeModal = createModal({}, gFormat); // modal group 5 // G93-94 var gUnitModal = createModal({}, gFormat); // modal group 6 // G20-21 var gCycleModal = createModal({}, gFormat); // modal group 9 // G81, ... var gRetractModal = createModal({}, gFormat); // modal group 10 // G98-99 // fixed settings var firstFeedParameter = 100; var WARNING_WORK_OFFSET = 0; // collected state var sequenceNumber; var currentWorkOffset; var forceSpindleSpeed = false; var activeMovements; // do not use by default var currentFeedId; /** Writes the specified block. */ function writeBlock() { if (properties.showSequenceNumbers) { writeWords2("N" + sequenceNumber, arguments); sequenceNumber += properties.sequenceNumberIncrement; if (sequenceNumber > 99999) { sequenceNumber = properties.sequenceNumberStart; } } else { writeWords(arguments); } } /** Writes the specified optional block. */ function writeOptionalBlock() { if (properties.showSequenceNumbers) { var words = formatWords(arguments); if (words) { writeWords("/", "N" + sequenceNumber, words); sequenceNumber += properties.sequenceNumberIncrement; if (sequenceNumber > 99999) { sequenceNumber = properties.sequenceNumberStart; } } } else { writeWords2("/", arguments); } } function formatComment(text) { return "(" + filterText(String(text).toUpperCase(), permittedCommentChars) + ")"; } /** Output a comment. */ function writeComment(text) { writeln(formatComment(text)); } function onOpen() { if (false) { // note: setup your machine here var aAxis = createAxis({coordinate:0, table:false, axis:[1, 0, 0], range:[-360,360], preference:1}); var cAxis = createAxis({coordinate:2, table:false, axis:[0, 0, 1], range:[-360,360], preference:1}); machineConfiguration = new MachineConfiguration(aAxis, cAxis); setMachineConfiguration(machineConfiguration); optimizeMachineAngles2(0); // TCP mode } if (!machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(0)) { aOutput.disable(); } if (!machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(1)) { bOutput.disable(); } if (!machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(2)) { cOutput.disable(); } if (!properties.separateWordsWithSpace) { setWordSeparator(""); } sequenceNumber = properties.sequenceNumberStart; writeln("%"); if (programName) { writeComment(programName); } if (programComment) { writeComment(programComment); } // dump machine configuration var vendor = machineConfiguration.getVendor(); var model = machineConfiguration.getModel(); var description = machineConfiguration.getDescription(); if (properties.writeMachine && (vendor || model || description)) { writeComment(localize("Machine")); if (vendor) { writeComment(" " + localize("vendor") + ": " + vendor); } if (model) { writeComment(" " + localize("model") + ": " + model); } if (description) { writeComment(" " + localize("description") + ": " + description); } } // dump tool information if (properties.writeTools) { var zRanges = {}; if (is3D()) { var numberOfSections = getNumberOfSections(); for (var i = 0; i < numberOfSections; ++i) { var section = getSection(i); var zRange = section.getGlobalZRange(); var tool = section.getTool(); if (zRanges[tool.number]) { zRanges[tool.number].expandToRange(zRange); } else { zRanges[tool.number] = zRange; } } } var tools = getToolTable(); if (tools.getNumberOfTools() > 0) { for (var i = 0; i < tools.getNumberOfTools(); ++i) { var tool = tools.getTool(i); var comment = "T" + toolFormat.format(tool.number) + " " + "D=" + xyzFormat.format(tool.diameter) + " " + localize("CR") + "=" + xyzFormat.format(tool.cornerRadius); if ((tool.taperAngle > 0) && (tool.taperAngle < Math.PI)) { comment += " " + localize("TAPER") + "=" + taperFormat.format(tool.taperAngle) + localize("deg"); } if (zRanges[tool.number]) { comment += " - " + localize("ZMIN") + "=" + xyzFormat.format(zRanges[tool.number].getMinimum()); } comment += " - " + getToolTypeName(tool.type); writeComment(comment); } } } if (false) { // check for duplicate tool number for (var i = 0; i < getNumberOfSections(); ++i) { var sectioni = getSection(i); var tooli = sectioni.getTool(); for (var j = i + 1; j < getNumberOfSections(); ++j) { var sectionj = getSection(j); var toolj = sectionj.getTool(); if (tooli.number == toolj.number) { if (xyzFormat.areDifferent(tooli.diameter, toolj.diameter) || xyzFormat.areDifferent(tooli.cornerRadius, toolj.cornerRadius) || abcFormat.areDifferent(tooli.taperAngle, toolj.taperAngle) || (tooli.numberOfFlutes != toolj.numberOfFlutes)) { error( subst( localize("Using the same tool number for different cutter geometry for operation '%1' and '%2'."), sectioni.hasParameter("operation-comment") ? sectioni.getParameter("operation-comment") : ("#" + (i + 1)), sectionj.hasParameter("operation-comment") ? sectionj.getParameter("operation-comment") : ("#" + (j + 1)) ) ); return; } } } } } // absolute coordinates, feed per min, and incremental arc center mode writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gFeedModeModal.format(94), gPlaneModal.format(17), gFormat.format(91.1)); switch (unit) { case IN: writeBlock(gUnitModal.format(20)); break; case MM: writeBlock(gUnitModal.format(21)); break; } } function onComment(message) { writeComment(message); } /** Force output of X, Y, and Z. */ function forceXYZ() { xOutput.reset(); yOutput.reset(); zOutput.reset(); } /** Force output of A, B, and C. */ function forceABC() { aOutput.reset(); bOutput.reset(); cOutput.reset(); } function forceFeed() { currentFeedId = undefined; feedOutput.reset(); } /** Force output of X, Y, Z, A, B, C, and F on next output. */ function forceAny() { forceXYZ(); forceABC(); forceFeed(); } function FeedContext(id, description, feed) { this.id = id; this.description = description; this.feed = feed; } function getFeed(f) { if (activeMovements) { var feedContext = activeMovements[movement]; if (feedContext != undefined) { if (!feedFormat.areDifferent(feedContext.feed, f)) { if (feedContext.id == currentFeedId) { return ""; // nothing has changed } forceFeed(); currentFeedId = feedContext.id; return "F#" + (firstFeedParameter + feedContext.id); } } currentFeedId = undefined; // force Q feed next time } return feedOutput.format(f); // use feed value } function initializeActiveFeeds() { activeMovements = new Array(); var movements = currentSection.getMovements(); var id = 0; var activeFeeds = new Array(); if (hasParameter("operation:tool_feedCutting")) { if (movements & ((1 << MOVEMENT_CUTTING) | (1 << MOVEMENT_LINK_TRANSITION) | (1 << MOVEMENT_EXTENDED))) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Cutting"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedCutting")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_CUTTING] = feedContext; activeMovements[MOVEMENT_LINK_TRANSITION] = feedContext; activeMovements[MOVEMENT_EXTENDED] = feedContext; } ++id; if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_PREDRILL)) { feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Predrilling"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedCutting")); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_PREDRILL] = feedContext; activeFeeds.push(feedContext); } ++id; } if (hasParameter("operation:finishFeedrate")) { if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_FINISH_CUTTING)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Finish"), getParameter("operation:finishFeedrate")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_FINISH_CUTTING] = feedContext; } ++id; } else if (hasParameter("operation:tool_feedCutting")) { if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_FINISH_CUTTING)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Finish"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedCutting")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_FINISH_CUTTING] = feedContext; } ++id; } if (hasParameter("operation:tool_feedEntry")) { if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_LEAD_IN)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Entry"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedEntry")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_LEAD_IN] = feedContext; } ++id; } if (hasParameter("operation:tool_feedExit")) { if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_LEAD_OUT)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Exit"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedExit")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_LEAD_OUT] = feedContext; } ++id; } if (hasParameter("operation:noEngagementFeedrate")) { if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_LINK_DIRECT)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Direct"), getParameter("operation:noEngagementFeedrate")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_LINK_DIRECT] = feedContext; } ++id; } else if (hasParameter("operation:tool_feedCutting") && hasParameter("operation:tool_feedEntry") && hasParameter("operation:tool_feedExit")) { if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_LINK_DIRECT)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Direct"), Math.max(getParameter("operation:tool_feedCutting"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedEntry"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedExit"))); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_LINK_DIRECT] = feedContext; } ++id; } if (hasParameter("operation:reducedFeedrate")) { if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_REDUCED)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Reduced"), getParameter("operation:reducedFeedrate")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_REDUCED] = feedContext; } ++id; } if (hasParameter("operation:tool_feedRamp")) { if (movements & ((1 << MOVEMENT_RAMP) | (1 << MOVEMENT_RAMP_HELIX) | (1 << MOVEMENT_RAMP_PROFILE) | (1 << MOVEMENT_RAMP_ZIG_ZAG))) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Ramping"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedRamp")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_RAMP] = feedContext; activeMovements[MOVEMENT_RAMP_HELIX] = feedContext; activeMovements[MOVEMENT_RAMP_PROFILE] = feedContext; activeMovements[MOVEMENT_RAMP_ZIG_ZAG] = feedContext; } ++id; } if (hasParameter("operation:tool_feedPlunge")) { if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_PLUNGE)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("Plunge"), getParameter("operation:tool_feedPlunge")); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_PLUNGE] = feedContext; } ++id; } if (true) { // high feed if (movements & (1 << MOVEMENT_HIGH_FEED)) { var feedContext = new FeedContext(id, localize("High Feed"), this.highFeedrate); activeFeeds.push(feedContext); activeMovements[MOVEMENT_HIGH_FEED] = feedContext; } ++id; } for (var i = 0; i < activeFeeds.length; ++i) { var feedContext = activeFeeds[i]; writeBlock("#" + (firstFeedParameter + feedContext.id) + "=" + feedFormat.format(feedContext.feed), formatComment(feedContext.description)); } } var currentWorkPlaneABC = undefined; function forceWorkPlane() { currentWorkPlaneABC = undefined; } function setWorkPlane(abc) { if (!machineConfiguration.isMultiAxisConfiguration()) { return; // ignore } if (!((currentWorkPlaneABC == undefined) || abcFormat.areDifferent(abc.x, currentWorkPlaneABC.x) || abcFormat.areDifferent(abc.y, currentWorkPlaneABC.y) || abcFormat.areDifferent(abc.z, currentWorkPlaneABC.z))) { return; // no change } onCommand(COMMAND_UNLOCK_MULTI_AXIS); // NOTE: add retract here writeBlock( gMotionModal.format(0), conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(0), "A" + abcFormat.format(abc.x)), conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(1), "B" + abcFormat.format(abc.y)), conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(2), "C" + abcFormat.format(abc.z)) ); onCommand(COMMAND_LOCK_MULTI_AXIS); currentWorkPlaneABC = abc; } var closestABC = false; // choose closest machine angles var currentMachineABC; function getWorkPlaneMachineABC(workPlane) { var W = workPlane; // map to global frame var abc = machineConfiguration.getABC(W); if (closestABC) { if (currentMachineABC) { abc = machineConfiguration.remapToABC(abc, currentMachineABC); } else { abc = machineConfiguration.getPreferredABC(abc); } } else { abc = machineConfiguration.getPreferredABC(abc); } try { abc = machineConfiguration.remapABC(abc); currentMachineABC = abc; } catch (e) { error( localize("Machine angles not supported") + ":" + conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(0), " A" + abcFormat.format(abc.x)) + conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(1), " B" + abcFormat.format(abc.y)) + conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(2), " C" + abcFormat.format(abc.z)) ); } var direction = machineConfiguration.getDirection(abc); if (!isSameDirection(direction, W.forward)) { error(localize("Orientation not supported.")); } if (!machineConfiguration.isABCSupported(abc)) { error( localize("Work plane is not supported") + ":" + conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(0), " A" + abcFormat.format(abc.x)) + conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(1), " B" + abcFormat.format(abc.y)) + conditional(machineConfiguration.isMachineCoordinate(2), " C" + abcFormat.format(abc.z)) ); } var tcp = true; if (tcp) { setRotation(W); // TCP mode } else { var O = machineConfiguration.getOrientation(abc); var R = machineConfiguration.getRemainingOrientation(abc, W); setRotation(R); } return abc; } function onSection() { var insertToolCall = isFirstSection() || currentSection.getForceToolChange && currentSection.getForceToolChange() || (tool.number != getPreviousSection().getTool().number); var retracted = false; // specifies that the tool has been retracted to the safe plane var newWorkOffset = isFirstSection() || (getPreviousSection().workOffset != currentSection.workOffset); // work offset changes var newWorkPlane = isFirstSection() || !isSameDirection(getPreviousSection().getGlobalFinalToolAxis(), currentSection.getGlobalInitialToolAxis()); if (insertToolCall || newWorkOffset || newWorkPlane) { // stop spindle before retract during tool change if (insertToolCall && !isFirstSection()) { onCommand(COMMAND_STOP_SPINDLE); } // retract to safe plane retracted = true; if (useG28) { writeBlock(gFormat.format(28), gAbsIncModal.format(91), "Z" + xyzFormat.format(0)); // retract writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90)); } else { writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gFormat.format(53), gMotionModal.format(0), "Z" + xyzFormat.format(0)); // retract } zOutput.reset(); } if (hasParameter("operation-comment")) { var comment = getParameter("operation-comment"); if (comment) { writeComment(comment); } } if (properties.showNotes && hasParameter("notes")) { var notes = getParameter("notes"); if (notes) { var lines = String(notes).split("\n"); var r1 = new RegExp("^[\\s]+", "g"); var r2 = new RegExp("[\\s]+$", "g"); for (line in lines) { var comment = lines[line].replace(r1, "").replace(r2, ""); if (comment) { writeComment(comment); } } } } if (insertToolCall) { forceWorkPlane(); retracted = true; onCommand(COMMAND_COOLANT_OFF); if (!isFirstSection() && properties.optionalStop) { onCommand(COMMAND_OPTIONAL_STOP); } if (tool.number > 99) { warning(localize("Tool number exceeds maximum value.")); } writeBlock("T" + toolFormat.format(tool.number), mFormat.format(6)); if (tool.comment) { writeComment(tool.comment); } var showToolZMin = false; if (showToolZMin) { if (is3D()) { var numberOfSections = getNumberOfSections(); var zRange = currentSection.getGlobalZRange(); var number = tool.number; for (var i = currentSection.getId() + 1; i < numberOfSections; ++i) { var section = getSection(i); if (section.getTool().number != number) { break; } zRange.expandToRange(section.getGlobalZRange()); } writeComment(localize("ZMIN") + "=" + zRange.getMinimum()); } } if (properties.preloadTool) { var nextTool = getNextTool(tool.number); if (nextTool) { writeBlock("T" + toolFormat.format(nextTool.number)); } else { // preload first tool var section = getSection(0); var firstToolNumber = section.getTool().number; if (tool.number != firstToolNumber) { writeBlock("T" + toolFormat.format(firstToolNumber)); } } } } if (insertToolCall || forceSpindleSpeed || isFirstSection() || (rpmFormat.areDifferent(tool.spindleRPM, sOutput.getCurrent())) || (tool.clockwise != getPreviousSection().getTool().clockwise)) { forceSpindleSpeed = false; if (tool.spindleRPM < 1) { error(localize("Spindle speed out of range.")); return; } if (tool.spindleRPM > 99999) { warning(localize("Spindle speed exceeds maximum value.")); } writeBlock( sOutput.format(tool.spindleRPM), mFormat.format(tool.clockwise ? 3 : 4) ); } // wcs var workOffset = currentSection.workOffset; if (workOffset == 0) { warningOnce(localize("Work offset has not been specified. Using G54 as WCS."), WARNING_WORK_OFFSET); workOffset = 1; } if (workOffset > 0) { if (workOffset > 6) { var p = workOffset - 6; // 1->... if (p > 3) { error(localize("Work offset out of range.")); return; } else { if (workOffset != currentWorkOffset) { writeBlock(gFormat.format(59.1), "P" + p); // G59.1P currentWorkOffset = workOffset; } } } else { if (workOffset != currentWorkOffset) { writeBlock(gFormat.format(53 + workOffset)); // G54->G59 currentWorkOffset = workOffset; } } } forceXYZ(); if (machineConfiguration.isMultiAxisConfiguration()) { // use 5-axis indexing for multi-axis mode // set working plane after datum shift var abc = new Vector(0, 0, 0); if (currentSection.isMultiAxis()) { forceWorkPlane(); cancelTransformation(); } else { abc = getWorkPlaneMachineABC(currentSection.workPlane); } setWorkPlane(abc); } else { // pure 3D var remaining = currentSection.workPlane; if (!isSameDirection(remaining.forward, new Vector(0, 0, 1))) { error(localize("Tool orientation is not supported.")); return; } setRotation(remaining); } // set coolant after we have positioned at Z { var c = mapCoolantTable.lookup(tool.coolant); if (c) { writeBlock(mFormat.format(c)); } else { warning(localize("Coolant not supported.")); } } forceAny(); gMotionModal.reset(); var initialPosition = getFramePosition(currentSection.getInitialPosition()); if (!retracted) { if (getCurrentPosition().z < initialPosition.z) { writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(0), zOutput.format(initialPosition.z)); } } if (insertToolCall || retracted || (!isFirstSection() && getPreviousSection().isMultiAxis())) { var lengthOffset = tool.lengthOffset; if (lengthOffset > 99) { error(localize("Length offset out of range.")); return; } gMotionModal.reset(); writeBlock(gPlaneModal.format(17)); if (!machineConfiguration.isHeadConfiguration()) { writeBlock( gAbsIncModal.format(90), gMotionModal.format(0), xOutput.format(initialPosition.x), yOutput.format(initialPosition.y) ); writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(0), gFormat.format(43), zOutput.format(initialPosition.z), hFormat.format(lengthOffset)); } else { writeBlock( gAbsIncModal.format(90), gMotionModal.format(0), gFormat.format(43), xOutput.format(initialPosition.x), yOutput.format(initialPosition.y), zOutput.format(initialPosition.z), hFormat.format(lengthOffset) ); } gMotionModal.reset(); } else { writeBlock( gAbsIncModal.format(90), gMotionModal.format(0), xOutput.format(initialPosition.x), yOutput.format(initialPosition.y) ); } if (properties.useParametricFeed && hasParameter("operation-strategy") && (getParameter("operation-strategy") != "drill")) { if (!insertToolCall && activeMovements && (getCurrentSectionId() > 0) && (getPreviousSection().getPatternId() == currentSection.getPatternId())) { // use the current feeds } else { initializeActiveFeeds(); } } else { activeMovements = undefined; } } function onDwell(seconds) { if (seconds > 99999.999) { warning(localize("Dwelling time is out of range.")); } writeBlock(gFeedModeModal.format(94), gFormat.format(4), "P" + secFormat.format(seconds)); } function onSpindleSpeed(spindleSpeed) { writeBlock(sOutput.format(spindleSpeed)); } function onCycle() { writeBlock(gPlaneModal.format(17)); } function getCommonCycle(x, y, z, r) { forceXYZ(); // force xyz on first drill hole of any cycle return [xOutput.format(x), yOutput.format(y), zOutput.format(z), "R" + xyzFormat.format(r)]; } function onCyclePoint(x, y, z) { switch (cycleType) { case "tapping": case "left-tapping": case "right-tapping": cycleExpanded = true; repositionToCycleClearance(cycle, x, y, z); writeBlock( gAbsIncModal.format(90), gMotionModal.format(0), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 17, zOutput.format(cycle.retract)), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 18, yOutput.format(cycle.retract)), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 19, xOutput.format(cycle.retract)) ); writeBlock( gAbsIncModal.format(90), gFormat.format(33.1), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 17, zOutput.format(z)), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 18, yOutput.format(y)), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 19, xOutput.format(x)), "K" + pitchFormat.format(tool.threadPitch) ); gMotionModal.reset(); writeBlock( gAbsIncModal.format(90), gMotionModal.format(0), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 17, zOutput.format(cycle.clearance)), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 18, yOutput.format(cycle.clearance)), conditional(gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 19, xOutput.format(cycle.clearance)) ); return; /* case "tapping-with-chip-breaking": case "left-tapping-with-chip-breaking": case "right-tapping-with-chip-breaking": */ } if (isFirstCyclePoint()) { repositionToCycleClearance(cycle, x, y, z); // return to initial Z which is clearance plane and set absolute mode var F = cycle.feedrate; var P = (cycle.dwell == 0) ? 0 : clamp(0.001, cycle.dwell, 99999999); // in seconds switch (cycleType) { case "drilling": writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(81), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), feedOutput.format(F) ); break; case "counter-boring": if (P > 0) { writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(82), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), "P" + secFormat.format(P), feedOutput.format(F) ); } else { writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(81), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), feedOutput.format(F) ); } break; case "chip-breaking": expandCyclePoint(x, y, z); break; case "deep-drilling": if (P > 0) { expandCyclePoint(x, y, z); } else { writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(83), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), "Q" + xyzFormat.format(cycle.incrementalDepth), // conditional(P > 0, "P" + secFormat.format(P)), feedOutput.format(F) ); } break; case "fine-boring": expandCyclePoint(x, y, z); break; /* // not supported case "back-boring": var dx = (gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 19) ? cycle.backBoreDistance : 0; var dy = (gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 18) ? cycle.backBoreDistance : 0; var dz = (gPlaneModal.getCurrent() == 17) ? cycle.backBoreDistance : 0; writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(87), getCommonCycle(x - dx, y - dy, z - dz, cycle.bottom), "Q" + xyzFormat.format(cycle.shift), "P" + secFormat.format(P), // not optional feedOutput.format(F) ); break; */ case "reaming": if (P > 0) { writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(89), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), "P" + secFormat.format(P), feedOutput.format(F) ); } else { writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(85), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), feedOutput.format(F) ); } break; case "stop-boring": writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(86), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), conditional(P > 0, "P" + secFormat.format(P)), feedOutput.format(F) ); break; case "manual-boring": writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(88), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), "P" + secFormat.format(P), // not optional feedOutput.format(F) ); break; case "boring": if (P > 0) { writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(89), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), "P" + secFormat.format(P), // not optional feedOutput.format(F) ); } else { writeBlock( gRetractModal.format(98), gAbsIncModal.format(90), gCycleModal.format(85), getCommonCycle(x, y, z, cycle.retract), feedOutput.format(F) ); } break; default: expandCyclePoint(x, y, z); } } else { if (cycleExpanded) { expandCyclePoint(x, y, z); } else { var _x = xOutput.format(x); var _y = yOutput.format(y); var _z = zOutput.format(z); if (!_x && !_y && !_z) { switch (gPlaneModal.getCurrent()) { case 17: // XY xOutput.reset(); // at least one axis is required _x = xOutput.format(x); break; case 18: // ZX zOutput.reset(); // at least one axis is required _z = zOutput.format(z); break; case 19: // YZ yOutput.reset(); // at least one axis is required _y = yOutput.format(y); break; } } writeBlock(_x, _y, _z); } } } function onCycleEnd() { if (!cycleExpanded) { writeBlock(gCycleModal.format(80)); gMotionModal.reset(); } } var pendingRadiusCompensation = -1; function onRadiusCompensation() { pendingRadiusCompensation = radiusCompensation; } function onRapid(_x, _y, _z) { var x = xOutput.format(_x); var y = yOutput.format(_y); var z = zOutput.format(_z); if (x || y || z) { if (pendingRadiusCompensation >= 0) { error(localize("Radius compensation mode cannot be changed at rapid traversal.")); return; } writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(0), x, y, z); forceFeed(); } } function onLinear(_x, _y, _z, feed) { var x = xOutput.format(_x); var y = yOutput.format(_y); var z = zOutput.format(_z); var f = getFeed(feed); if (x || y || z) { if (pendingRadiusCompensation >= 0) { pendingRadiusCompensation = -1; var d = tool.diameterOffset; if (d > 99) { warning(localize("The diameter offset exceeds the maximum value.")); } writeBlock(gPlaneModal.format(17)); switch (radiusCompensation) { case RADIUS_COMPENSATION_LEFT: dOutput.reset(); writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(1), gFormat.format(41), x, y, z, dOutput.format(d), f); break; case RADIUS_COMPENSATION_RIGHT: dOutput.reset(); writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(1), gFormat.format(42), x, y, z, dOutput.format(d), f); break; default: writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(1), gFormat.format(40), x, y, z, f); } } else { writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(1), x, y, z, f); } } else if (f) { if (getNextRecord().isMotion()) { // try not to output feed without motion forceFeed(); // force feed on next line } else { writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(1), f); } } } function onRapid5D(_x, _y, _z, _a, _b, _c) { if (pendingRadiusCompensation >= 0) { error(localize("Radius compensation mode cannot be changed at rapid traversal.")); return; } var x = xOutput.format(_x); var y = yOutput.format(_y); var z = zOutput.format(_z); var a = aOutput.format(_a); var b = bOutput.format(_b); var c = cOutput.format(_c); writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(0), x, y, z, a, b, c); forceFeed(); } function onLinear5D(_x, _y, _z, _a, _b, _c, feed) { if (pendingRadiusCompensation >= 0) { error(localize("Radius compensation cannot be activated/deactivated for 5-axis move.")); return; } var x = xOutput.format(_x); var y = yOutput.format(_y); var z = zOutput.format(_z); var a = aOutput.format(_a); var b = bOutput.format(_b); var c = cOutput.format(_c); var f = getFeed(feed); if (x || y || z || a || b || c) { writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(1), x, y, z, a, b, c, f); } else if (f) { if (getNextRecord().isMotion()) { // try not to output feed without motion forceFeed(); // force feed on next line } else { writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(1), f); } } } function onCircular(clockwise, cx, cy, cz, x, y, z, feed) { if (pendingRadiusCompensation >= 0) { error(localize("Radius compensation cannot be activated/deactivated for a circular move.")); return; } var start = getCurrentPosition(); if (isFullCircle()) { if (properties.useRadius || isHelical()) { // radius mode does not support full arcs linearize(tolerance); return; } switch (getCircularPlane()) { case PLANE_XY: writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gPlaneModal.format(17), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), iOutput.format(cx - start.x, 0), jOutput.format(cy - start.y, 0), getFeed(feed)); break; case PLANE_ZX: writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gPlaneModal.format(18), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), iOutput.format(cx - start.x, 0), kOutput.format(cz - start.z, 0), getFeed(feed)); break; case PLANE_YZ: writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gPlaneModal.format(19), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), jOutput.format(cy - start.y, 0), kOutput.format(cz - start.z, 0), getFeed(feed)); break; default: linearize(tolerance); } } else if (!properties.useRadius) { switch (getCircularPlane()) { case PLANE_XY: writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gPlaneModal.format(17), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), xOutput.format(x), yOutput.format(y), zOutput.format(z), iOutput.format(cx - start.x, 0), jOutput.format(cy - start.y, 0), getFeed(feed)); break; case PLANE_ZX: writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gPlaneModal.format(18), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), xOutput.format(x), yOutput.format(y), zOutput.format(z), iOutput.format(cx - start.x, 0), kOutput.format(cz - start.z, 0), getFeed(feed)); break; case PLANE_YZ: writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gPlaneModal.format(19), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), xOutput.format(x), yOutput.format(y), zOutput.format(z), jOutput.format(cy - start.y, 0), kOutput.format(cz - start.z, 0), getFeed(feed)); break; default: linearize(tolerance); } } else { // use radius mode var r = getCircularRadius(); if (toDeg(getCircularSweep()) > (180 + 1e-9)) { r = -r; // allow up to <360 deg arcs } switch (getCircularPlane()) { case PLANE_XY: writeBlock(gPlaneModal.format(17), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), xOutput.format(x), yOutput.format(y), zOutput.format(z), "R" + rFormat.format(r), getFeed(feed)); break; case PLANE_ZX: writeBlock(gPlaneModal.format(18), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), xOutput.format(x), yOutput.format(y), zOutput.format(z), "R" + rFormat.format(r), getFeed(feed)); break; case PLANE_YZ: writeBlock(gPlaneModal.format(19), gMotionModal.format(clockwise ? 2 : 3), xOutput.format(x), yOutput.format(y), zOutput.format(z), "R" + rFormat.format(r), getFeed(feed)); break; default: linearize(tolerance); } } } var mapCommand = { COMMAND_STOP:0, COMMAND_OPTIONAL_STOP:1, COMMAND_END:2, COMMAND_SPINDLE_CLOCKWISE:3, COMMAND_SPINDLE_COUNTERCLOCKWISE:4, COMMAND_STOP_SPINDLE:5, COMMAND_ORIENTATE_SPINDLE:19, COMMAND_LOAD_TOOL:6, COMMAND_COOLANT_ON:8, COMMAND_COOLANT_OFF:9 }; function onCommand(command) { switch (command) { case COMMAND_STOP: writeBlock(mFormat.format(0)); forceSpindleSpeed = true; return; case COMMAND_START_SPINDLE: onCommand(tool.clockwise ? COMMAND_SPINDLE_CLOCKWISE : COMMAND_SPINDLE_COUNTERCLOCKWISE); return; case COMMAND_LOCK_MULTI_AXIS: return; case COMMAND_UNLOCK_MULTI_AXIS: return; case COMMAND_BREAK_CONTROL: return; case COMMAND_TOOL_MEASURE: return; } var stringId = getCommandStringId(command); var mcode = mapCommand[stringId]; if (mcode != undefined) { writeBlock(mFormat.format(mcode)); } else { onUnsupportedCommand(command); } } function onSectionEnd() { if (currentSection.isMultiAxis()) { writeBlock(gMotionModal.format(49)); } writeBlock(gPlaneModal.format(17)); if (((getCurrentSectionId() + 1) >= getNumberOfSections()) || (tool.number != getNextSection().getTool().number)) { onCommand(COMMAND_BREAK_CONTROL); } forceAny(); } function onClose() { onCommand(COMMAND_COOLANT_OFF); if (useG28) { writeBlock(gFormat.format(28), gAbsIncModal.format(91), "Z" + xyzFormat.format(0)); // retract } else { writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gFormat.format(53), gMotionModal.format(0), "Z" + xyzFormat.format(0)); // retract } zOutput.reset(); setWorkPlane(new Vector(0, 0, 0)); // reset working plane if (!machineConfiguration.hasHomePositionX() && !machineConfiguration.hasHomePositionY()) { if (useG28) { // 90/91 mode is don't care writeBlock(gFormat.format(28), gAbsIncModal.format(91), "X" + xyzFormat.format(0), "Y" + xyzFormat.format(0)); // return to home } } else { var homeX; if (machineConfiguration.hasHomePositionX()) { homeX = "X" + xyzFormat.format(machineConfiguration.getHomePositionX()); } var homeY; if (machineConfiguration.hasHomePositionY()) { homeY = "Y" + xyzFormat.format(machineConfiguration.getHomePositionY()); } writeBlock(gAbsIncModal.format(90), gFormat.format(53), gMotionModal.format(0), homeX, homeY); } onImpliedCommand(COMMAND_END); onImpliedCommand(COMMAND_STOP_SPINDLE); writeBlock(mFormat.format(30)); // stop program, spindle stop, coolant off writeln("%"); }

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11 years 11 months ago #53505 by andypugh

yoshimitsuspeed wrote: N20 G53 G0 Z0.
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Well, that is a little different to what I thought. The move up is a G53 (machine coordinates move).

I have to say that inserting that is a rather odd choice on the part of Autodesk, but then they do have a tendency to think that they know best.

What you need to do is to set up your spindle with the axis limits as max 0 and min -150 (or whatever) then set up the homing directions to suit.

Home offset probably needs to be a small negative number (so that the 0 position is below the home switch)

As it happens, that was the only way I could make my Z work, I am slightly curious how you managed something different.

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11 years 11 months ago #53517 by yoshimitsuspeed
I will try that.
Like I said, when I was setting up the machine I seem to remember getting a warning that the program exceeded the machines limits when I set it to go into the negatives but it's also quite possible I had something set up wrong or who knows what else might have been going on since I was still just learning it and trying to get it working. At that point I just assumed that it must need to stay in the positives to I never went back. I will try flipping it and see how it goes.

As to how I managed it, I have no idea. I just tried combinations till everything did what it was supposed to.
Thanks for the input.

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