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4 years 2 months ago #250595
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New design for a CNC engraver/etcher/scratcher ... ??? was created by tommylight
What the tiiiiiit is this thing supposed to be named?
I am going with "scratcher" from now on, all it does is scratch the surface of granite or stone or glass or wood or...
So, i thought it would be nice to do a new design for these machines i keep making from time to time and since i had to learn FreeCAD again, i gave it a go, so here are the results of the Version 1 :
and Version 2 :
I am going with "scratcher" from now on, all it does is scratch the surface of granite or stone or glass or wood or...
So, i thought it would be nice to do a new design for these machines i keep making from time to time and since i had to learn FreeCAD again, i gave it a go, so here are the results of the Version 1 :
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4 years 2 months ago #250596
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For more info and videos
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Youtube :
www.youtube.com/@toma.cnc1
www.youtube.com/@toma.3d
www.youtube.com/@tomapc
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Attached is the full set of STL files in case anyone wants to build one, one part is compressed using 7Z and renamed to be able to upload, so remove ".txt" before unzipping it.
Edit:
Added the latest config as it has provisions for disabling PWM on ESC/Stop to prevent spindle from making a big hole on the material. Also "run from here" should work as is.
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Pressure motor info:
The "pressure" motor is :
-a 3 phase BLDC motors with it's own electronic controller taken out of the old photocopiers,
-there are many versions and sizes of them,
-form 5 to 10 pins,
-all signaling is sinking type or "active low", meaning connect to ground to activate
-all have the pinout printed on the board,
-older ones are pure PWM while new ones require also a clock signal,
-some are single direction while some are bidirectional,
-and most of them can be easily used for this purpose/machine,
--The PWM ones require 5V, 12-24V and an inverted PWM signal
--The ones requiring clock signal have a self check feature, so mostly work with only 12-24V supply and one of the pins tied to ground, this pin will spin the motor for about 2 second and stop, and has to be disconnected and reconnected to spin again. This pin is used as inverted PWM but scaling must be set to about max 85-95% PWM to keep the controller from tripping and stopping the motor after 2 seconds.
--for inverting the PWM pin i use a single 220 OHm resistor and a single transistor, any NPN transistor works, resistor connected between base of transistor and PWM output from PC or Mesa board.
Instagram :
Youtube :
www.youtube.com/@toma.cnc1
www.youtube.com/@toma.3d
www.youtube.com/@tomapc
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Attached is the full set of STL files in case anyone wants to build one, one part is compressed using 7Z and renamed to be able to upload, so remove ".txt" before unzipping it.
Edit:
Added the latest config as it has provisions for disabling PWM on ESC/Stop to prevent spindle from making a big hole on the material. Also "run from here" should work as is.
Edit 2:
Pressure motor info:
The "pressure" motor is :
-a 3 phase BLDC motors with it's own electronic controller taken out of the old photocopiers,
-there are many versions and sizes of them,
-form 5 to 10 pins,
-all signaling is sinking type or "active low", meaning connect to ground to activate
-all have the pinout printed on the board,
-older ones are pure PWM while new ones require also a clock signal,
-some are single direction while some are bidirectional,
-and most of them can be easily used for this purpose/machine,
--The PWM ones require 5V, 12-24V and an inverted PWM signal
--The ones requiring clock signal have a self check feature, so mostly work with only 12-24V supply and one of the pins tied to ground, this pin will spin the motor for about 2 second and stop, and has to be disconnected and reconnected to spin again. This pin is used as inverted PWM but scaling must be set to about max 85-95% PWM to keep the controller from tripping and stopping the motor after 2 seconds.
--for inverting the PWM pin i use a single 220 OHm resistor and a single transistor, any NPN transistor works, resistor connected between base of transistor and PWM output from PC or Mesa board.
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4 years 2 months ago #250599
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That is cool Tommy, I like "scratcher".
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4 years 1 month ago #250950
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Here is a quick picture of the current state of "The Scratcher" as i got the frames back fro m painting yesterday so been busy putting it together.
Also printing parts for the second one in yellow PETG.
Also printing parts for the second one in yellow PETG.
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4 years 1 month ago #251362
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One done:
The other getting the spaghetti treatment or wiring:
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The other getting the spaghetti treatment or wiring:
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4 years 1 month ago #252372
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Also finished this working occasionally on it
It has 4 motors on the Z axis so it probes 4 corners and adjusts each corner to make the table flat.
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Also finished this working occasionally on it
It has 4 motors on the Z axis so it probes 4 corners and adjusts each corner to make the table flat.
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3 years 7 months ago #267727
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Another video
youtube.com/shorts/mPyvLKJxuzI?feature=share
STL files are attached near the top, if anyone wants to build one.
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STL files are attached near the top, if anyone wants to build one.
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2 years 11 months ago #285113
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Replied by santy on topic New design for a CNC engraver/etcher/scratcher ... ???
Hey Tommy. I'm looking for some information on this post to help a friend build a similar machine.
I'm trying to understand the used mechanism to allow for harder/softer engraving. Are you using a faster motor speed for the darker areas? Or pressing harder with a Z axis movement? This is my main question in the proccess.
I managed to install dmap2gcode which is really helpful here!
I'm trying to understand the used mechanism to allow for harder/softer engraving. Are you using a faster motor speed for the darker areas? Or pressing harder with a Z axis movement? This is my main question in the proccess.
I managed to install dmap2gcode which is really helpful here!
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2 years 11 months ago #285136
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The spindle and spindle motor are attached to the shaft of a 3 phase sensored servo motor from big photocopiers, they need 12-24V to work and a inverted PWM output from parallel port or Mesa board. Inverting is done using a single resistor and a transistor.
Inverting can be done by inverting the pin in hal, but that has the nasty habit of ramming the spindle in the table until LinuxCNC is started.
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This.Or pressing harder with a Z axis movement?
The spindle and spindle motor are attached to the shaft of a 3 phase sensored servo motor from big photocopiers, they need 12-24V to work and a inverted PWM output from parallel port or Mesa board. Inverting is done using a single resistor and a transistor.
Inverting can be done by inverting the pin in hal, but that has the nasty habit of ramming the spindle in the table until LinuxCNC is started.
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2 years 11 months ago #285142
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Oh, so Z axis only serves the purpose of probing the material. The rest is done via spindle output.
I assume the Z output from the Gcode signal is script-converted into a S1 - S1000 signal to drive the pwm out.
Can you post your files? Not sure how to handle the table flattening probe.
Thank you in advance.
I assume the Z output from the Gcode signal is script-converted into a S1 - S1000 signal to drive the pwm out.
Can you post your files? Not sure how to handle the table flattening probe.
Thank you in advance.
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