Deckel Maho NC Integration

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30 Jan 2017 03:20 #86939 by gernoff
gernoff created the topic: Deckel Maho NC Integration
I have a Deckel FP5NC Dialog 3 machine that is fully functional. I intend to upgrade the machine to LinuxCNC in the future and have been researching the project for some time. A number of people have completed the conversion, demonstrating that is is very feasible. I would like to make this thread a repository of the information everyone has gained in converting their machines.
I realize there can and will be a million combinations possible but would like the primary direction of the thread to be

'Integration of LinuxCNC to Deckel / Maho / DMG type machines using existing hardware'

LinuxCNC control using original hardware:
Servo drives / amps
Spindle drives / amps
Position feedback (typically 20 micron glass scales sin/cos)
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30 Jan 2017 04:01 - 30 Jan 2017 05:27 #86942 by gernoff
gernoff replied the topic: Deckel Maho NC Integration FP5NC Details
Here is information I know about my FP5NC machine:

DC servo axis drives, tachometer feedback, driven via Bosch TR25 amp
Accepts ±10VDC speed signal
DC 7.5 Kw spindle motor driven by BBC amp, variable speed
Unsure on speed input signal
Direct position feedback from 20 micron glass scale, output signal is sin / cos (resolver)
I will be using an IC Haus converter; TW28 Factsheet
Scales have home index position.
Spindle is driven via a 6 speed gearbox? I researched this but did not write down what I had determined......
Use PLC to operate the 3ea. gear shift motors and feedback micro switches?
Machine axis' have limit switches (micro switches and 3ea. position ramps)

I intend to use the bottom half of the existing control console with all the existing controls:
System Enable / Disable buttons
Mode rotary switch
Feedrate override rotary
Feedrate rotary
Spindle RPM rotary
Forward / Reverse / Stop buttons
E Stop buttons on console and MPG pendant
X Y Z C Jog buttons
Axis lock toggle button
Jog rapid override button
Lube and Coolant buttons
Cycle Start / Stop buttons
Horizontal / Vertical spindle operation switch
MPEG pendant with axis select and 3 rate select buttons
Last Edit: 30 Jan 2017 05:27 by gernoff.
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30 Jan 2017 05:38 - 30 Jan 2017 19:50 #86946 by gernoff
gernoff replied the topic: Deckel Maho NC Integration FP5NC Ideas
I want to keep the mode select knob with discrete rotary positions to select the various mode pages to be designed into the interface.
Not sure how the switch is currently wired but would like input on how to best transmit the selected positions minimizing input ports used.
I will use potentiometers for the feed and speed control knobs.
Are the lights in the pendant switches turned on via a response from the controller or simply a mechanical switch within the button? I assume the smart way to go is for linuxcnc to light the switch, verifying the selected action.

I already have the TW28 boards for doing the glass scale conversion and would like input on the additional features of the chipset that could be used to optimize the encoder side of things. I'm no electrical engineer, more of an integrator....... so hopefully some of you EE type will chime in with ideas.
Last Edit: 30 Jan 2017 19:50 by gernoff.
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30 Jan 2017 12:09 - 30 Jan 2017 12:10 #86958 by bevins
bevins replied the topic: Deckel Maho NC Integration FP5NC Ideas

gernoff wrote: I already have the TW28 boards for doing the glass scale conversion and was interested input on the additional features of the chipset that could be used to optimize the encoder side of things.


Does TW28 come in board form or you getting just the chip? Whats the cost of these?

Those look pretty cool.
Last Edit: 30 Jan 2017 12:10 by bevins.
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30 Jan 2017 19:47 #86997 by gernoff
gernoff replied the topic: Deckel Maho NC Integration FP5NC Ideas
Yes, they have an evaluation board available. IIRC it is around US$100.
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30 Jan 2017 21:20 #87001 by sinusvag
sinusvag replied the topic: Deckel Maho NC Integration FP5NC Ideas
Hi Gernoff!

The wiring of the switches in the D3 console is described in the schematics Orange Book for the D3 machines, and luckily there is a complete scan of that book here:

sites.google.com/site/deckelnc/

Cheers
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