4th axis tangent to path XY

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14 years 5 months ago #20430 by billykid
hi all
I tried tangentkins. and seems to work, only that I have the button touch off inactive (gray)
you know it can be?
thanks
Mauro

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14 years 5 months ago #20432 by andypugh
billykid wrote:

hi all
I tried tangentkins. and seems to work, only that I have the button touch off inactive (gray)
you know it can be?


Sorry, no, I have no idea. I doubt it is related to the kinematics, I assume there is something about the machine state in Axis that means that touch-off isn't likely.

Do you need to switch to World Mode? (xyz positions, not 123 joints). There is a menu option, or use $

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14 years 5 months ago #20437 by BigJohnT
In Axis you can only touch off when E-Stop is out, Power is On and you are in World Mode. F1, F2, $ is the shortcut keys.

John

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14 years 5 months ago #20450 by billykid
Many thanks Andy, John ! touch off work properly but axes in world mode are noisy, I think perhaps excessive gain.
in mode 0 1 2 3 the movement is fluid.
I will try the next version of tangentkins so that it can be enabled only when needed.
regards
mauro

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13 years 3 months ago #36928 by nkp
Replied by nkp on topic 4th axis tangent to path XY
tell me please , how to activate the tangentkins and in the mode "manual"?
To make it work in all modes without exception...

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13 years 3 months ago #36932 by andypugh

nkp wrote: tell me please , how to activate the tangentkins and in the mode "manual"?
To make it work in all modes without exception...

Unfortunately Tangentkins is something of an experiment that nearly worked, rather than a good solution to the issue.

If I was doing it now, I think that I would use the axis.0.joint-vel-cmd and axis.1.joint-vel-cmd pins to calculate the tangent direction, and probably use a custom HAL component to drive the rotary axis.
This custom HAL component might require a link to the feed over-ride pin to slow the motion on a reversal.

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11 years 1 week ago #63999 by mgenton85
Has there been any further dev on tangential path follow or does anyone know of a cam program that will give the c axis output with xyza ?

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11 years 1 week ago #64002 by andypugh

mgenton85 wrote: Has there been any further dev on tangential path follow or does anyone know of a cam program that will give the c axis output with xyza ?


From a quick Google it seems that Gcodetools (a plug-in for Inkscape) can do this.

An alternative would be an input filter for LinuxCNC. This would take normal XY G-code and add additional C-axis moves.

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11 years 1 week ago #64005 by mgenton85

andypugh wrote:

mgenton85 wrote: Has there been any further dev on tangential path follow or does anyone know of a cam program that will give the c axis output with xyza ?


From a quick Google it seems that Gcodetools (a plug-in for Inkscape) can do this.

An alternative would be an input filter for LinuxCNC. This would take normal XY G-code and add additional C-axis moves.



yeah that makes no sense to me :( i tried to use the tangentkins with 2.6.4 but all that happens is joint 3 following error and i dont really understand the language yet
if tangentkins worked that would be ideal can you provide a helpful link so i can decode and learn your program? because i really need to have this capability and i refuse to go back to mach mach 60 ipm with steppers linux 200 ipm same setup except for encoders yeah not going backwards

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11 years 1 week ago #64006 by andypugh

mgenton85 wrote: can you provide a helpful link so i can decode and learn your program?


Can you re-phrase the question? I am not sure what you mean.

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