Retrofitting a 1986 Maho MH400E

drimaropoylos wrote: For start you can use multimeter, the oscilloscope is better but bulky.
John

Not if your oscilloscope is a cheap chinese toy.


I took a quick look at the 19K1 latching today.
I did this test a couple of weeks ago, jumpering between +24V on terminal 200 and terminal 209 and it worked fine...


It is weird, I have 24V output from the 7i84 for this pin, and it is activated correctly by LinuxCNC, into 28x1-2 / OPC1-2 cabe, but the relay is not closing. Checked the resistance between 209 and OPC1-2 and there is no continuaity.


We know that the Phillips standard installation wouldn't latch i if the lube oil system was low, so I am picking that the signal is passed across a couple of other relays on the 28A1 relay board on it's way in from OPC 1-2 to terminal 209. Unfortunately this is not shown on the wiring diagram, so I'd have to search for this somehow. However, to short cut the process, I wired the MESA 7i84 pin directly into the 209 terminal. Still doesn't work. I suspect the the separate 24V rails do not share a common ground.

The batteries then died on my multimeter, so I need to get some more tomorrow.
Mark

A really handy oscilloscope. Any luck with the MahoMH600E configuration Mark?

I pull my cover off the cover off the exe, and it seems I had the correct wiring to 0V and +5V. This voltage is also okay on the EXE test points.

My osci couldn't find any TTL output signals, or any signals at all when I moved the axis though. According to the modern EXE board connector wiring the A/B/Z signals should be on the three pins 4/5/6 (grey/blue/green).

How do I go about measuring the 11µA sine waves coming off the scales? With my multimeter on mA, its lowest scale is 400mA. Do I measure between I1+ to I1- or one pole to ground?

Something I have done has changed the DC power behavior to the relay panel. The panel receives power from all three 24V DC rails, Ignoring the third rail which is only for gearbox shifting, with terminals 201-204 energised immediately, and 201-200 energised once the estop circuit closes.


201 is the common ground between the always on rail to terminal 204, and the second rail to 201. I just measured, and the always on rail drops to 0V, as soon as the E-Stop circuit closes. I can't yet see what I screwed up to create that behavior, but am pretty sure this is causing the non-latching start problem.

**turns out it was a loose connector on the relay board**
Mark

drimaropoylos wrote: A really handy oscilloscope. Any luck with the MahoMH600E configuration Mark?

I am still doing the basic wiring, and trying to get the beast to latch on, and talk with the Heidenhain glass scales. Feels like I have spend hours sitting in front of that control cabinet being very busy achieving nothing.

I haven't reloaded your latest set of config files to see if the classic Ladder file has rungs in it. thanks for the reminder.
Mark

First check in and out voltages on the bridge rectifier 6v1 and then the transformer. But be careful, if this drop in the voltage is caused from a shortcut then there is a chance something to blowup. Disconnect one of the dc outputs of the bridge rectifier and put an amperemeter.

Test all the possible combination off rails and exe input to ensure the behavior is the same on all the rails and output of the exe.

RotarySMP wrote: How do I go about measuring the 11µA sine waves comming off the scales? With my multimeter on mA, its lowest scale is 400mA. Do I measure between I1+ to I1- or one pole to ground?

I would try measuring the voltage across a load resistor.

Looks like I wont need to measure the 11µA sine wave at present. The EXE board also has +12V test points.

Since the MAHO wiring diagram only showed 5V supply to the glass scale EXE A/D signal processor, I wrongly figured the 12V wasn't needed. Since the MAHO wiring diagrams are wrong on the wiring colors, I connected up 12V to the test point, and sure enough,


Cool, if anyone else wants to interface Heidenhain LS403 glass scales through a 229 281 01 EXE board, the pin out is:
+12V - Red
+5V - Brown
0V - White
A - Green
B - Blue
Z - [need to confirm this, but I think it is grey.]

I'll take 12V from the ITX PSU and add terminals to wire all three EXE'S into.

Finished wiring the MAHO 28A1 relay board I/O into the 7i84 today.







I put the E-Stop and on buttons in a temporary pendant, with a jog wheel I haven't wired up yet.



Mark

Looks awesome for sure!
Regards,
Tom