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11 years 5 months ago #59035 by andypugh
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sspeed33317 wrote: Also if i remember correctly the way they did it was power up the spindle 25 rpm, then let it coast , drop the pin and then the stop signal.


That makes it easier, as then you can have the pin disabled by motion.spindle-is-on.

M3
G4 P2
M5
M65 P0 (drop the pin)

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11 years 5 months ago #59038 by sspeed33317
Ha.. then there is the two speed gearbox i have to figure out :-)

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11 years 5 months ago #59039 by andypugh
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sspeed33317 wrote: Ha.. then there is the two speed gearbox i have to figure out :-)


Not too much of a problem for spindle orientation.

Is there any switch which indicates the selected gear? That can make things easier. Though it is possible to detect the gear by the ratio of motor frequency to spindle speed.

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11 years 5 months ago #59045 by sspeed33317
Yes there is a proximity switch for high/low , the gearbox is shifted by a air solenoid and actuator

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11 years 5 months ago #59047 by andypugh
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sspeed33317 wrote: Yes there is a proximity switch for high/low , the gearbox is shifted by a air solenoid and actuator


That's easy then.

www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/gearchange.9.html

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11 years 5 months ago #59048 by sspeed33317
Do you know who this is?



I think it is Awetmore

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11 years 5 months ago #59049 by andypugh
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sspeed33317 wrote: I think it is Awetmore


You can be there in a week or so.

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11 years 5 months ago #59050 by sspeed33317
I'm not so sure about that :-)

I dont know if I am going to be able to use the existing servos.
I have some AMC amplifiers and was having trouble with the initial tuning.

I was thinking about getting TECO amps and motors.
Even though they are digital amps they can still use analog input.

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11 years 5 months ago #59051 by andypugh
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sspeed33317 wrote: II dont know if I am going to be able to use the existing servos.
I have some AMC amplifiers and was having trouble with the initial tuning.
I was thinking about getting TECO amps and motors.


AMC amps work. A hardware change is not likely to be the answer.

Tuning is a science, but it feels like an art because you are working with so many unknowns. For example you probably have no idea what the second moment of your ballscrew is.
So, you need to play around with the numbers for long enough to get a "feel" (and I hate using that word for something which is actually 100% deterministic) for your machine.

Do you know if you have a velocity-mode or torque-mode system? As a general rule if the encoders go to the drives then you are velocity mode, if the encoders go to LinuxCNC only then you are torque-mode.
If the drivers are set for velocity mode and they can't see the encoders then I don't know what happens, but it would be difficult.

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11 years 5 months ago #59052 by sspeed33317
They are B25A20's PWM brushless amps running brushed motors. 160 volt DC
Ive been in contact with AMC a few times and they say there should be no problem.

Encoders go back to the MESA card. If I were using brushless motors then hall sensors would go to the amps only.

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