Logic Level Limit Switches and Mesa 7i77

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10 years 8 months ago #70318 by B.Reilly01
I'm working out the schematic for my Hurco SM1 conversion, and I've noticed what appears to be a problem. It looks to me like inputs all need to apply field voltage to the input pin to be detected ( or 60% of field voltage at a minimum). My limit switches are inductive 5V limit switches. Can these be used with the 7i77 I've already bought? On top of that, I believe that my limit switches show 0V when activated. That's if I'm reading this diagram properly.

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10 years 8 months ago #70320 by PCW
Do you have the PN of the limit switches? (They look like OPTO detectors in the picture)
They may well have a larger than 5V switching capability

But... they are wired rather strangely, especially if "COM SERVO" is ground
with the -OT switches wired in sourcing mode and +OT switches wired in sinking mode

If "COM SERVO" is ground, +OT SERVO will pull a positive voltage toward ground
and -OT SERVO will pull a negative voltage toward ground, almost like this was wired
into some analog +-10V cicuitry

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10 years 8 months ago #70323 by B.Reilly01
It is actually wired in an analog servo system. OT servo channels return to the drive and disable the direction of travel they are wired to (- disables neg travel +disables positive travel). Com is in fact ground. OT software goes to the control board to inform the control of the limit. I believe that wierd switch is actually an optoisolator on the limit switch board, which is separate of the proximity switches. I will get the pn off the switches a little later when I can get back or to the mill. Thanks

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10 years 8 months ago #70325 by B.Reilly01
I just found some more info, OT Software ± are actually the logic level INPUTS (0 or 5v) from the limit switches, AND signal to the current control board to signal limit reached. So, the way I believe it works is that when the limit switch is tripped, OT Software goes [strike]HIGH,[/strike] to ground (NPN SINKING SWITCH) turning[strike] off [/strike] on the LED in the optoisolator. This causes the optoisolator to turn [strike]off,[/strike]on, causing OT Servo to [strike]float(?)[/strike]go towards ground(?) So... OT servo + would show [strike]+OT voltage (I think 15v...)[/strike] ground when against a limit, and -OT Servo would [strike]show -15v(?)[/strike] show ground when against the neg limit(?)

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10 years 8 months ago #70328 by B.Reilly01
So that part number for the switch is 101xk5-1. It's a normally open, NPN 4.5-5.5v inductive switch.

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10 years 8 months ago #70343 by PCW
so if the Open collector outputs wont tolerate 24V
( hard to tell from what limited information is available on those prox's ),
there are a couple of options:

1. Use spare encoder inputs in TTL mode, these give you 5V inputs readable on the encoder A,B, and Index hal pins
So 2 spare encoders would give you your 6 inputs

2. Add a sserial TTL level input device (a 7I69 will give you 48 TTL level I/O pins. a 7I90HD, 72)

3. Set the I/O voltage of the 7I77 to 5V (this means you lose the 24V output capability )

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