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Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
1 year 4 months ago #329571
by greg23_78
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Hello everyone,
I need your advice on an industrial embroidery machine.
I've managed to recover a Toyota ESP embroidery machine, but it's broken down to the level of the electronic board, I have the impression that it has lost all its parameters, there's a ‘-’ on the screen and then nothing.
I'm going to retrofit it and drive it with linuxcnc.
Following the dismantling of the casings, I have a few questions:
-1: I have a DC 30W servomotor with 500 pt encoder in single ended 5V. and at the end of my axis I have a Copal JC30S potentiometer. Does this potentiometer correspond to a tacho (speed control)?
-2 : On my motor, the maximum voltage is not indicated. To power my machine, I use a power supply that mixes 5V and 24V DC. I assume that its motors are powered by 24V DC, correct? Do you know of any DC driver references for this motor power with tacho (if the potentiometer has one)
I need your advice on an industrial embroidery machine.
I've managed to recover a Toyota ESP embroidery machine, but it's broken down to the level of the electronic board, I have the impression that it has lost all its parameters, there's a ‘-’ on the screen and then nothing.
I'm going to retrofit it and drive it with linuxcnc.
Following the dismantling of the casings, I have a few questions:
-1: I have a DC 30W servomotor with 500 pt encoder in single ended 5V. and at the end of my axis I have a Copal JC30S potentiometer. Does this potentiometer correspond to a tacho (speed control)?
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-2 : On my motor, the maximum voltage is not indicated. To power my machine, I use a power supply that mixes 5V and 24V DC. I assume that its motors are powered by 24V DC, correct? Do you know of any DC driver references for this motor power with tacho (if the potentiometer has one)
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1 year 4 months ago #329573
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
I think the potentiometer is being used as an absolute position feedback device.
(probably meaning that the long shaft only turns a few times)
(probably meaning that the long shaft only turns a few times)
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1 year 4 months ago #329575
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
+1I think the potentiometer is being used as an absolute position feedback device.
(probably meaning that the long shaft only turns a few times)
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1 year 4 months ago #329634
by greg23_78
Replied by greg23_78 on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
OK, I understand.
But what is the operating condition of this potentiometer?
- Is it precise enough for me to use it for position control and the encoder for speed control?
- it only allows the machine to be homed without moving to a homing switch (the embroidery machine doesn't have a home and limit switch).
- does it allow homing and limit switches? If so, would a potentiometer for travel limits be useful in addition to the soft limit, or is the soft limit enough?
But what is the operating condition of this potentiometer?
- Is it precise enough for me to use it for position control and the encoder for speed control?
- it only allows the machine to be homed without moving to a homing switch (the embroidery machine doesn't have a home and limit switch).
- does it allow homing and limit switches? If so, would a potentiometer for travel limits be useful in addition to the soft limit, or is the soft limit enough?
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1 year 4 months ago #329636
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
Does the pot have hard stops?
How many turns does it take to hit those stops, if any?
How many degrees can it turn, if it does less than 1 turn?
How many turns does it take to hit those stops, if any?
How many degrees can it turn, if it does less than 1 turn?
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1 year 4 months ago #329640
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
Not sure how the potentiometer was used but It could replace home/limit switches
(and since it's absolute no homing cycle would be needed at startup)
The encoder is possibly used for both position and velocity feedback
Is there another motion axis?
(and since it's absolute no homing cycle would be needed at startup)
The encoder is possibly used for both position and velocity feedback
Is there another motion axis?
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1 year 4 months ago #329669
by Aciera
www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/862058/COPAL/JC30S.html
Replied by Aciera on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
Does the pot have hard stops?
How many turns does it take to hit those stops, if any?
How many degrees can it turn, if it does less than 1 turn?
www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/862058/COPAL/JC30S.html
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1 year 4 months ago #329670
by Aciera
There is and it seems so be using the same potentiometer setup:
Replied by Aciera on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
Is there another motion axis?
There is and it seems so be using the same potentiometer setup:
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1 year 4 months ago #329679
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
I think that if you scale the potentiometer voltage to position, and latch it in HAL (you can do this with a mux component, with the output wired to the input, and triggered by machine-is-on) and add that to the scaled encoder position from the motor encoder, then you would have a "good enough" absolute encoder emulator.
Then configure HOME_ABSOLUTE_ENCODER in the INI
Then configure HOME_ABSOLUTE_ENCODER in the INI
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1 year 4 months ago #329680
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Toyota embroidery machine - retrofit
You might want to set feed-hold when the needle is down, and release it when the needle is up...
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