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Emco 240 Tool Turret
9 years 3 months ago #95649
by timmert
Replied by timmert on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
I use a mesa 5i25/7i76, don't know if it has enough inputs?
But the sensors for turret position is done before
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Contri...oolchanger_component
This is the information I found inside the motor cover
And the 2 speed wiring diagram.
But the sensors for turret position is done before
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Contri...oolchanger_component
This is the information I found inside the motor cover
And the 2 speed wiring diagram.
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9 years 3 months ago #95653
by andypugh
Yes, the 7i76 has 32 input. That should be plenty for even a very complex lathe. And you can add up to 48 more on the serial expansion port on the 7i76. And then up to 384 more on the spare header on the 5i25.
That looks like it might work, though the description says "Gray code" and I thought that your truth table looked like straight binary.
However, that is a detail. Using the built-in "carousel" HAL component might be easier through software upgrades, but it needs a bit more HAL effort to make it work. (only very slightly).
OK, that's useful, and presumably the relays to make all that happen still exist in the control box? Do you have the required 3-phase supply?
Replied by andypugh on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
timmert wrote: I use a mesa 5i25/7i76, don't know if it has enough inputs?
Yes, the 7i76 has 32 input. That should be plenty for even a very complex lathe. And you can add up to 48 more on the serial expansion port on the 7i76. And then up to 384 more on the spare header on the 5i25.
But the sensors for turret position is done before
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Contri...oolchanger_component
That looks like it might work, though the description says "Gray code" and I thought that your truth table looked like straight binary.
However, that is a detail. Using the built-in "carousel" HAL component might be easier through software upgrades, but it needs a bit more HAL effort to make it work. (only very slightly).
This is the information I found inside the motor cover
And the 2 speed wiring diagram.
OK, that's useful, and presumably the relays to make all that happen still exist in the control box? Do you have the required 3-phase supply?
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9 years 3 months ago #95654
by timmert
Replied by timmert on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
Yep I got the complete (working) controls
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9 years 3 months ago #95657
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
Can you see what type of relay is used to control the ATC motor? (whether it is small enough to be driven directly by the 7i76 GPIO, or whether intermediate relays are needed)
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9 years 3 months ago #95665
by timmert
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9 years 3 months ago #95670
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
So, do the 6 wires at the bottom of the picture go to the 6 terminals on the motor, and the three terminals at the top go to a relay controlled by the motion controller? (or direct to the motion controller). In either case yo should be able to leave everything just as it is, and control the board and motor from LinuxCNC.
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9 years 3 months ago #95723
by timmert
Replied by timmert on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
Just checked. I think it's a bit easier to install a stepper motor :laugh:
I really have no clue how to wire it since my electronics knowledge is almost 0. I really appreciate the help though! But I think I can't provide you the information you need.
I just want to get the turret working. And installing a stepper motor is a bit more straight forward I think
I really have no clue how to wire it since my electronics knowledge is almost 0. I really appreciate the help though! But I think I can't provide you the information you need.
I just want to get the turret working. And installing a stepper motor is a bit more straight forward I think
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9 years 3 months ago #95726
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
It's your machine.
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9 years 1 month ago #98583
by timmert
Replied by timmert on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
I finally installed the stepper motor on the turret. Stepper is working, turret is turning.
But not sure how to approach the following. And what's the most user friendly method.
I can set the turret as a rotary axis. 360 degrees is a complete turn.
8 tool positions. 45 degrees for each tool.
The turret needs to move behind the locking pin. And a few steps back to lock it in place.
So maybe it needs to go +/- 48 degrees forward, and 5 degrees back to lock it.
Should work fine and I can manually add the G0 for the turret turn to my code. But that's not very user friendly. I would need to edit the code each time.
Isn't there a easier solution to accomplish this?
But not sure how to approach the following. And what's the most user friendly method.
I can set the turret as a rotary axis. 360 degrees is a complete turn.
8 tool positions. 45 degrees for each tool.
The turret needs to move behind the locking pin. And a few steps back to lock it in place.
So maybe it needs to go +/- 48 degrees forward, and 5 degrees back to lock it.
Should work fine and I can manually add the G0 for the turret turn to my code. But that's not very user friendly. I would need to edit the code each time.
Isn't there a easier solution to accomplish this?
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9 years 1 month ago #98585
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Emco 240 Tool Turret
I told you not to use a stepper...
You could run the stepper motor in velocity mode, that way it doesn't matter if it slips.
You could run the stepper motor in velocity mode, that way it doesn't matter if it slips.
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