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8 years 8 months ago #106149
by Mike_Eitel
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One maybe silly question
I wonder if the following is possible with a mill that has encoder on spindle:
I mount a threadcutting turning tool in a small flycutter.
I run the x y axes round a cylinder in a big circle in a manner that the cutting tool stays always square to the surface with synronized spindle turning. Descending in a spiral.
Making the circle smaller from cycle to cycle should result in a thread.
Similar it should be possible to make an inside thread.
Is this possible with lcnc?
I wonder if the following is possible with a mill that has encoder on spindle:
I mount a threadcutting turning tool in a small flycutter.
I run the x y axes round a cylinder in a big circle in a manner that the cutting tool stays always square to the surface with synronized spindle turning. Descending in a spiral.
Making the circle smaller from cycle to cycle should result in a thread.
Similar it should be possible to make an inside thread.
Is this possible with lcnc?
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8 years 8 months ago #106726
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Thread cutting unusual way?
That sounds like thread-milling, and ought to work, albeit slowly with a fly cutter. (a lot of dead time)
Look at YouTube videos of thread milling.
Another way is to use a boring head:
Look at YouTube videos of thread milling.
Another way is to use a boring head:
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8 years 8 months ago #106736
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Yes and no Andy
I want to have the flycutter be square as in the video, BUT
make the circle movement by X and Y axes moving.
Yes lot of time but surely nice to watch. For a hobby guy.
One idea is to try a screwable head for a diving-scrubber with ca 220x5mm thread. In POM-C
Maybe crazy, but why not give it a try.
Mike
I want to have the flycutter be square as in the video, BUT
make the circle movement by X and Y axes moving.
Yes lot of time but surely nice to watch. For a hobby guy.
One idea is to try a screwable head for a diving-scrubber with ca 220x5mm thread. In POM-C
Maybe crazy, but why not give it a try.
Mike
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8 years 8 months ago #106746
by andypugh
That is thread milling.
And it can be done single-pointed:
The G-code is trivial. G2 I-20 Z-10 P10 would cut a 1mm pitch thread 40mm diameter and 10 long.
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Mike_Eitel wrote: Yes and no Andy
I want to have the flycutter be square as in the video, BUT
make the circle movement by X and Y axes moving.
That is thread milling.
And it can be done single-pointed:
The G-code is trivial. G2 I-20 Z-10 P10 would cut a 1mm pitch thread 40mm diameter and 10 long.
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8 years 8 months ago #106751
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Yes Andy
I know that...but also the prices for such tools. And the fragility
And also the according gcode. And new i will have a encoder on my mill.
And as fare as i understood there is no way to synchronize x,x and z spiral move combined with spindle.
But wanted to throw that in discussion.
Mike
I know that...but also the prices for such tools. And the fragility
And also the according gcode. And new i will have a encoder on my mill.
And as fare as i understood there is no way to synchronize x,x and z spiral move combined with spindle.
But wanted to throw that in discussion.
Mike
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8 years 8 months ago #106769
by Grotius
Replied by Grotius on topic Thread cutting unusual way?
@Mike,
You have to write the pitch value of the z-axis yourself. It can also be a cone pitch if you want, but you know.
Spindle value (rotating speed of milling tool) is related to tap cycle. ItÅ› a custom industial made m or g code i think, for example:
M843 (Synchronous Rotation command)
www.cnctrainingcentre.com/news/rigid-tapping-g84-canned-cycle/
You have to write the pitch value of the z-axis yourself. It can also be a cone pitch if you want, but you know.
Spindle value (rotating speed of milling tool) is related to tap cycle. ItÅ› a custom industial made m or g code i think, for example:
M843 (Synchronous Rotation command)
www.cnctrainingcentre.com/news/rigid-tapping-g84-canned-cycle/
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8 years 7 months ago #106794
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Nope Grotius
It is not posible with rigit tapping.
Mike
It is not posible with rigit tapping.
Mike
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