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Relay to turn on spindle
7 years 10 months ago #123045
by Leon82
Relay to turn on spindle was created by Leon82
What type of relay would be used to turn on the spindle?
My grizzly g0463/siegx3 has a 110v dc motor(with brushes) it has forward and reverse drum switch and a potentiometer for speed.
I am finding topixs for the sx3 which uses a brushless motor.
The breakout board has a built in spindle relay but I'm not sure where to start with it.
Thanks
My grizzly g0463/siegx3 has a 110v dc motor(with brushes) it has forward and reverse drum switch and a potentiometer for speed.
I am finding topixs for the sx3 which uses a brushless motor.
The breakout board has a built in spindle relay but I'm not sure where to start with it.
Thanks
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7 years 10 months ago #123046
by JohnnyCNC
Replied by JohnnyCNC on topic Relay to turn on spindle
What are you using for a BOB? You need to know how much current and at what voltage the output can handle.
I have a Sieg X3 with a Mesa 7i76 and am using 24v for my field power so the relay I used may not work for you.
I used these Relays in my new cabinet and I really like them.
I have a Sieg X3 with a Mesa 7i76 and am using 24v for my field power so the relay I used may not work for you.
I used these Relays in my new cabinet and I really like them.
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7 years 10 months ago #123048
by Leon82
Replied by Leon82 on topic Relay to turn on spindle
It's a $20 5 ax sainsmart. I'll have to look up the specs, but it's a cheap card.
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7 years 10 months ago #123083
by pl7i92
Replied by pl7i92 on topic Relay to turn on spindle
you shoudt use a 2 relay setup
5V FTR relay that drives a 8A 12V or 24V relay block like Finder 40,52 or 61
you can use the Realys from the Arduino 5V
the BOB got a single relay on board if you havent used it then use it as the FTR to get the bigger relay to work
5V FTR relay that drives a 8A 12V or 24V relay block like Finder 40,52 or 61
you can use the Realys from the Arduino 5V
the BOB got a single relay on board if you havent used it then use it as the FTR to get the bigger relay to work
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7 years 10 months ago #123116
by Leon82
Replied by Leon82 on topic Relay to turn on spindle
Ok thanks.
The relay on the Bob I have(currently unused) closes when the spindle button is pressed. I'm having trouble finding a relay that can switch 110volt DC at 8amps. Most seem to be an 120/dc35 volts.
ETA spoke too soon
The reviews are iffy but maybe I can try it
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075L5X5CT/ref...o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
The relay on the Bob I have(currently unused) closes when the spindle button is pressed. I'm having trouble finding a relay that can switch 110volt DC at 8amps. Most seem to be an 120/dc35 volts.
ETA spoke too soon
The reviews are iffy but maybe I can try it
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075L5X5CT/ref...o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
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7 years 10 months ago #123134
by Leon82
Replied by Leon82 on topic Relay to turn on spindle
I checked the voltage at the switch. It's actually ac 120volts because it's before it reaches the speed control. So I can use an ac relay.
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7 years 9 months ago #123515
by Leon82
Replied by Leon82 on topic Relay to turn on spindle
I was wrong
The forward reverse switch sees varying DC voltage up to 100volt. That's too much DC current for the relay in my board so it won't work. Switching just on the power cord wont work either because there is a safety fault switch
The forward reverse switch sees varying DC voltage up to 100volt. That's too much DC current for the relay in my board so it won't work. Switching just on the power cord wont work either because there is a safety fault switch
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7 years 9 months ago #123516
by Leon82
Replied by Leon82 on topic Relay to turn on spindle
I could still be wrong.
The voltage varies at the switch but on DC I'm getting negative volts while the motor is running.
I think I'm over thinking this.if I put the relay on the black wire going to the motor it will work. I would just have to make sure the relay could handle the load. Which I think it will be too much.
Or I have to bypass the safety some how and switch the AC side
The voltage varies at the switch but on DC I'm getting negative volts while the motor is running.
I think I'm over thinking this.if I put the relay on the black wire going to the motor it will work. I would just have to make sure the relay could handle the load. Which I think it will be too much.
Or I have to bypass the safety some how and switch the AC side
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7 years 9 months ago #123603
by pl7i92
Replied by pl7i92 on topic Relay to turn on spindle
best to go to your local E-part dealer or simply to a TV-repair shop or a Electronic man that makes house installations they got relays in spare for Free
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7 years 9 months ago #123609
by OT-CNC
I'm not familiar with your motor drive but in general you don't ever want to put a switch between the drive and the motor. You can blow the drive. Let the drive do the switching and speed control etc. If your drive doesn't have external inputs you would have to hack it or simply switch the ac supply assuming this is a small motor variable speed unit non VFD.
I would simply make a small relay box that has 2 outlets. Use 2 relays. Plug in the drive in one and have the other outlet control something like a small coolant pump etc.
I probably would not bypass the safety and just switch it on manually after issuing a M3. I think its more beneficial if the spindle stops automatically.
Just get a couple of solid state relays or mechanical ice cube/din rail ones rated above the inrush current of the drive.
Replied by OT-CNC on topic Relay to turn on spindle
I think I'm over thinking this.if I put the relay on the black wire going to the motor it will work. I would just have to make sure the relay could handle the load. Which I think it will be too much.
I'm not familiar with your motor drive but in general you don't ever want to put a switch between the drive and the motor. You can blow the drive. Let the drive do the switching and speed control etc. If your drive doesn't have external inputs you would have to hack it or simply switch the ac supply assuming this is a small motor variable speed unit non VFD.
I would simply make a small relay box that has 2 outlets. Use 2 relays. Plug in the drive in one and have the other outlet control something like a small coolant pump etc.
I probably would not bypass the safety and just switch it on manually after issuing a M3. I think its more beneficial if the spindle stops automatically.
Just get a couple of solid state relays or mechanical ice cube/din rail ones rated above the inrush current of the drive.
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