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Fresh install extremely slow
8 years 4 months ago #111788
by Ishtar
Fresh install extremely slow was created by Ishtar
I'm trying to migrate from Mach3 to LinuxCNC.
After I log in though, everything is incredibly slow. The best way I can describe it is I'm getting 1 frame per 5-10 seconds. If I leave the computer for 15 mins or so I can move the mouse fine until I mouse over an icon or click anything, then it's back to the way it was before.
I have tried installing on a partition to my SSD and a clean install on a wiped HDD. The computer is fairly old though, CPU is an Athlon 64. It had been running Windows 7 and Mach3 fine though, albeit Chrome was a little sluggish. I would have expected better performance than this though, is there anything I can check or is it a hardware problem?
New to Linux so please bear with me!
After I log in though, everything is incredibly slow. The best way I can describe it is I'm getting 1 frame per 5-10 seconds. If I leave the computer for 15 mins or so I can move the mouse fine until I mouse over an icon or click anything, then it's back to the way it was before.
I have tried installing on a partition to my SSD and a clean install on a wiped HDD. The computer is fairly old though, CPU is an Athlon 64. It had been running Windows 7 and Mach3 fine though, albeit Chrome was a little sluggish. I would have expected better performance than this though, is there anything I can check or is it a hardware problem?
New to Linux so please bear with me!
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8 years 4 months ago #111896
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Fresh install extremely slow
This might potentially be a graphics problem, but before trying to fix that, what are the results of the latency test?
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8 years 4 months ago #111905
by Ishtar
Replied by Ishtar on topic Fresh install extremely slow
I can't even get to the latency test 
I really can't progress any further than logging in, the system is pretty much unusable after that.
Currently, I AM operating on integrated graphics. I'll try to find a graphics card and try again.
I really can't progress any further than logging in, the system is pretty much unusable after that.
Currently, I AM operating on integrated graphics. I'll try to find a graphics card and try again.
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8 years 4 months ago #111907
by andypugh
I was meaning more to do with graphics drivers.
Which ISO did you load? It might be worth trying an alternative one (and maybe even a generic non-linuxCNC one)
Replied by andypugh on topic Fresh install extremely slow
Ishtar wrote: Currently, I AM operating on integrated graphics. I'll try to find a graphics card and try again.
I was meaning more to do with graphics drivers.
Which ISO did you load? It might be worth trying an alternative one (and maybe even a generic non-linuxCNC one)
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8 years 4 months ago #111919
by Ishtar
Replied by Ishtar on topic Fresh install extremely slow
Sure, it's 2.7, downloaded it the day before yesterday.
If I can boot into command line, what can I do to check the graphics drivers?
If I can boot into command line, what can I do to check the graphics drivers?
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8 years 4 months ago #111922
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Fresh install extremely slow
Try this ISO instead (also 2.7 but a different kernel and Linux distribution)
www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/
www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/
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8 years 4 months ago #111931
by Ishtar
Replied by Ishtar on topic Fresh install extremely slow
Thanks! That one is working MUCH better, a little jerky but I can live with it as long as it doesn't affect machining. I can get to the latency test now, result is 439010. Seems high?
EDIT. Make that 2223594
EDIT. Make that 2223594
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8 years 4 months ago #111936
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Fresh install extremely slow
Yes, that's way too high to be useful, unfortunately.
I would normally suggest the SMI patch, but as this is an AMD CPU that would not be relevant.
There may be other tricks to improve latency with the preempt-rt kernel.
Or you could try comparing unmodified Stretch and Wheezy liveDVDs to see if the slow graphics problem is with the base Linux distribution or the LinuxCNC realtime architecture.
I would normally suggest the SMI patch, but as this is an AMD CPU that would not be relevant.
There may be other tricks to improve latency with the preempt-rt kernel.
Or you could try comparing unmodified Stretch and Wheezy liveDVDs to see if the slow graphics problem is with the base Linux distribution or the LinuxCNC realtime architecture.
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8 years 4 months ago #111944
by ozzyrob
Replied by ozzyrob on topic Fresh install extremely slow
What exact Athalon 64:
Running
will give you the details of the cpu and what Motherboard ?
will list the computer info, press enter to scroll down and q to quit
I've being getting some really good results on some old AMD platforms. If you can stretch it try and get an older Radeon graphics card.
Running
Code:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
Code:
sudo dmidecode | more
I've being getting some really good results on some old AMD platforms. If you can stretch it try and get an older Radeon graphics card.
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8 years 4 months ago #111965
by Ishtar
Replied by Ishtar on topic Fresh install extremely slow
CPU is an Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2.4GHz, overclocked to 3GHz.
Motherboard has an AGP slot... Recommendations on a card would be good!
Would it make you laugh if I say I remember buying this CPU brand new?
I have no problem going out and trying to find a used PC with better specs if that's what's needed.
Motherboard has an AGP slot... Recommendations on a card would be good!
Would it make you laugh if I say I remember buying this CPU brand new?
I have no problem going out and trying to find a used PC with better specs if that's what's needed.
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