Raspberry Pi 4 Tutorial - fatal error

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6 years 4 months ago #170258 by tommylight
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I have seen from 140000 to 210000, and that should work if there are no excursions way past that.
I do not own and will not own a RPI4 in the near future, i still have two RPI3 to remind me how weak they are.
But seeing from a lot of posts lately, looks like the 4 is usable, so who knows....

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6 years 4 months ago #171928 by EddieM
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BlueChicago wrote: I appear to have managed to install Raspbian RT, and I am now at the stage where I am installing LinuxCNC, where I am to edit out the two lines of dependencies in the debian/control.bottom.in file. However, the instructions don't quite match what I am seeing in the file:

Code:
python-vte | gir1.2-vte-2.91,

as opposed to just:
Code:
python-vte,

I am a complete novice, so I am not sure whether to remove the whole line, or just a portion.

John, a big thank you for putting these steps together.

Thanks,

-Loren

Was there an answer to this? I just finished the RPi build mostly following the tutorial and saw this. I deleted the whole line. Did I do bad?
Like I said, I mostly followed the referenced tutorial except I built completely headless and used an xfce window manager. My servo latency is between 60000 and 90000. I’m running headless via VNC. Is that a source of latency?
That is how I plan to run linuxcnc. I have a Mesa 7i96.
Where should I look to reduce my latency?
Eddie

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6 years 3 months ago #173562 by persei8
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I went through the tutorial twice, the second time I had rpi os with desktop installed. RT kernel installed no problem. The problem was with compiling linuxcnc. Everything goes fine until the debuild -uc -us where it ends with :
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pdflatex failed A possible reason for transformation failure is invalid DocBook (as reported by xmllint) Error: pdflatex compilation failed make[1]: *** [../docs/src/Submakefile:443: ../docs/src/Master_Documentation.pdf] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/pi/emc/src' make: *** [debian/rules:34: build-stamp] Error 2 dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build subprocess returned exit status 2 debuild: fatal error at line 1182: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -ui failed
Does anyone have a successful deb package they could share? Thank you.

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6 years 3 months ago #173578 by phillc54
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There are armhf (32bit) buster packages on the Buildbot for 2.8 and master

buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/

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6 years 3 months ago #174055 by moonco
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Thank you for the link. How do I use that link? I am not very well versed in linux yet. Only been using it for 6 months of light use. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have the same problem as persei.

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6 years 3 months ago #174056 by phillc54
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Navigate to the version you want and download the .deb file

For 2.8 - last updated June 30:
buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-r...g19a686b67_armhf.deb
if you need the dev package as well:
buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-r...g19a686b67_armhf.deb
if you need english docs as well:
buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-r...3.g19a686b67_all.deb

For master (2.9) - last updated July 08:
buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/maste...ge42b91e15_armhf.deb
if you need the dev package as well:
buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/maste...ge42b91e15_armhf.deb
if you need english docs as well:
buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/maste...0.ge42b91e15_all.deb

after downloading to your Downloads directory, open a terminal and enter for each file you downloaded:
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sudo apt install ~/Downloads/<the_name_of_the_file>.deb

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6 years 3 months ago #174058 by moonco
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Thank you! I assume if I am using ssh I can scp the file from my host computer to the rpi home folder, then run sudo apt install?

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6 years 3 months ago #174060 by phillc54
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Yes, if it is in your home directory you may need to enter it as:
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sudo apt install ./<the_name_of_the_file>.deb

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6 years 3 months ago #174185 by moonco
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Thank you for your help Phill. Installing those files didn't do the trick. Do you have any other suggestions? The last thing to build correctly is here:
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uild the book set list... xsltproc -o doclist.txt --xinclude --xincludestyle doclist.xsl /home/pi/emc/docs/src/Master_Documentation.xml Build the listings... xsltproc -o listings.xml --xinclude --xincludestyle --param current.dir '/home/pi/emc/docs/src' /usr/share/dblatex/xsl/common/mklistings.xsl /home/pi/emc/docs/src/Master_Documentation.xml xsltproc -o Master_Documentation.rtex --xinclude --xincludestyle --param current.dir '/home/pi/emc/docs/src' --param listings.xml '/tmp/tmplkwzHj/listings.xml' /tmp/tmplkwzHj/custom.xsl /home/pi/emc/docs/src/Master_Documentation.xml XSLT stylesheets DocBook - LaTeX 2e (0.3.10) =================================================== Pixel unit not handled (replaced by pt)

Above that I don't see any errors, seams to all compile correctly. When I ran
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sudo apt install ./<filename>
after copying the files onto the pi could I have installed them in the wrong place or does the nature of that call put the files where they need to go for the build?
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6 years 3 months ago #174191 by phillc54
Replied by phillc54 on topic Raspberry Pi 4 Tutorial

Thank you for your help Phill. Installing those files didn't do the trick.

What error did you get?


Above that I don't see any errors, seams to all compile correctly. When I ran
sudo apt install ./<filename>
after copying the files onto the pi could I have installed them in the wrong place or does the nature of that call put the files where they need to go for the build?

I am not following, did you compile on one machine then copy the deb fiiles to another?

EDIT: I see that neither 2.8 or master packages are building correctly on the Buildbot as well.

If you want to compile locally why not just do a run in place install and forget about using packages. If you want to use packages then use the prebuilt ones I linked to earlier.

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