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3 years 8 months ago #263719
by cmorley
I tried to make a deb on a lower python version but something failed with translations.
Linuxcnc seems to be getting harder
Replied by cmorley on topic Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21
It looks to me that the python dependency is based on the system that made the deb.tommylight post=263286 userid=17274Updated original post as this no longer works due to Python versions.
If anything changes, i will update again.
I tried to make a deb on a lower python version but something failed with translations.
Linuxcnc seems to be getting harder
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3 years 8 months ago #263727
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Replied by tommylight on topic Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21
Python, QT, Wayland, what's next? 
At one point in time, the buildbot version of LinuxCNC required Python under 3.6 and over 3.9 at the same time! I am sure i posted about that here somewhere, it is astonishing how much mess Python 3.n has made, with everything, not just with LinuxCNC.
I did waste quite some time trying to figure out how to make an appimage for LinuxCNC, from experience with plenty of apps in that format, they do work perfectly, no installation, no dependencies as everything is included, etc etc, but the tutorials online are useless and copied/pasted from the same source, information's are all about what i do not need, and none mention dependencies. Or my search-fu has failed miserably.
This would have been the best solution as it would run on almost anything, just download, make executable, run.
And since uspace version works as sim if there is no real time kernel, all would be good with the world!
Need realtime? Install kernel.
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Before anyone takes off at a tangent, no "snaps" and no "flatpak", but definitely NO SNAPS! Flatpak is bearable, somehow, maybe.
At one point in time, the buildbot version of LinuxCNC required Python under 3.6 and over 3.9 at the same time! I am sure i posted about that here somewhere, it is astonishing how much mess Python 3.n has made, with everything, not just with LinuxCNC.
I did waste quite some time trying to figure out how to make an appimage for LinuxCNC, from experience with plenty of apps in that format, they do work perfectly, no installation, no dependencies as everything is included, etc etc, but the tutorials online are useless and copied/pasted from the same source, information's are all about what i do not need, and none mention dependencies. Or my search-fu has failed miserably.
This would have been the best solution as it would run on almost anything, just download, make executable, run.
And since uspace version works as sim if there is no real time kernel, all would be good with the world!
Need realtime? Install kernel.
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Before anyone takes off at a tangent, no "snaps" and no "flatpak", but definitely NO SNAPS! Flatpak is bearable, somehow, maybe.
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3 years 8 months ago #263728
by tommylight
Usually that works and takes much less time to compile.
Replied by tommylight on topic Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21
Try it with --no-docsI tried to make a deb on a lower python version but something failed with translations.
Usually that works and takes much less time to compile.
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3 years 8 months ago #263765
by cmorley
Replied by cmorley on topic Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21
I can see no obvious way to adjust the debian deb build process. I changed the generated compiling command directly and it failed in some other translation way.
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3 years 8 months ago #263900
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21
./configure in the debian folder takes arguments. try ./configure help (or --help) There is a nodocs setting somewhere. Just not sure of the syntax
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3 years 8 months ago #263901
by cmorley
Replied by cmorley on topic Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21
great thanks - I'll try that.
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3 years 8 months ago #264790
by dberndt
Replied by dberndt on topic Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21
Is there some obvious solution I'm missing? Am I swimming against the current for no reason? Would running Debian version ?? make my linuxcnc life better and prevent me from being assaulted by python versions in future? Should we all just go back to building from source? Some other solution?
I just slowly moved to a new PC and OS because of a quite outdated python situation and I was just about to mount it into the control cabinet and moving from pre0 to pre1 has hit the python road-bump again.
I just slowly moved to a new PC and OS because of a quite outdated python situation and I was just about to mount it into the control cabinet and moving from pre0 to pre1 has hit the python road-bump again.
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3 years 8 months ago #264791
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Yeah, Debian is the way now as it is officially in their repos, not sure when Bookworm comes out but it can be downloaded and used.
RodW has a good tutorial for it, i think, been spaced out lately so not "Mr Current affairs" right now.
RodW has a good tutorial for it, i think, been spaced out lately so not "Mr Current affairs" right now.
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3 years 8 months ago #264800
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21
I heard that Tommy!
The reason why I left Buster and the linuxcnc ISO behind over 12 months ago was to get away from confusion with Python versions....
Then the package got to Bookworm so I've been playing outside the sandpit ever since.
But then I get caught with the error finishing read issue on all my hardware that had
So today been playing with Armbian and tonight will tell if I have nailed a preempt-rt build for an Odroid N2+
Bookworm with the 6.2 kernel.
The reason why I left Buster and the linuxcnc ISO behind over 12 months ago was to get away from confusion with Python versions....
Then the package got to Bookworm so I've been playing outside the sandpit ever since.
But then I get caught with the error finishing read issue on all my hardware that had
So today been playing with Armbian and tonight will tell if I have nailed a preempt-rt build for an Odroid N2+
Bookworm with the 6.2 kernel.
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3 years 7 months ago #266303
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So what is the best mainstream Debian version to go with for stability as of 3-10-2023?
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