Mesa 7i96 and E-Stop
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						03 Mar 2022 15:58				#236272
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				I am not sure how to configure my E-Stop switch, or wire it. 
Since it has 2 wiring paths, I am assuming one side I wire to my input and input common.
Should I wire the other side to my power for my stepper motors? That is that part I am not sure of.
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					Since it has 2 wiring paths, I am assuming one side I wire to my input and input common.
Should I wire the other side to my power for my stepper motors? That is that part I am not sure of.
Thanks
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						03 Mar 2022 16:12				#236274
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				If the estop has a N/C you can feed from your stepper drive power supply to the estop then on to the stepper drives.
When you select the estop input it makes the changes to the configuration needed to coordinate the estop input with the software estop. IIRC that input needs to be a N/C switch as well.
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					When you select the estop input it makes the changes to the configuration needed to coordinate the estop input with the software estop. IIRC that input needs to be a N/C switch as well.
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						03 Mar 2022 17:12				#236278
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				There are two switches on the EStop, They are opposite each other, one side open while the other closed.
If I understand correctly, I want the normally open side wired to my input, the normally closed to my hot side of my power going to the motor.
I have a crude diagram of what I think the wiring is supposed to look like.
 
			
					If I understand correctly, I want the normally open side wired to my input, the normally closed to my hot side of my power going to the motor.
I have a crude diagram of what I think the wiring is supposed to look like.
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						04 Mar 2022 00:01				#236297
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				It's debatable if there is much point killing the power to steppers with the E-stop. They won't turn without step signals. In fact they will stop faster if powered up.			
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						04 Mar 2022 00:48				#236302
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				Also, disconnecting the DC side of the power is never a good idea, especially with inductive loads such as motors.
That usually ends up in smoke from the drives.
					That usually ends up in smoke from the drives.
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						04 Mar 2022 01:12				#236303
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				So are you guys saying just to leave the normally closed side unconnected?, and just use the signal to do everything? 			
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						04 Mar 2022 01:48				#236306
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				Yes.			
					
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						04 Mar 2022 11:09				#236331
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				Actually IIRC you need to use the N/C side for the input.
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						04 Mar 2022 13:42				#236343
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				Thank you JT,
It is better to use the NC side of things as it will not allow the machine to move if any wiring is interrupted.
					It is better to use the NC side of things as it will not allow the machine to move if any wiring is interrupted.
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						04 Mar 2022 16:14				#236359
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If the PC locks up with a stepper system it will stop making steps. If it locks with a servo system it could leave the motors running at full speed.
So, in the former case you can trust the PC to be alive if the motors are turning.
You probably want to kill the spindle motor power in hardware, though.
On my lathe the approach I took was to wire the main contactor power through the E-stop NC connector. Then I have an input to the controller that monitors the contactor coil voltage. So hard-estop triggers soft e-stop. But this is a fairly powerful servo system.
 			
					
	
			
			 		
													
	
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			Yes, but only in the case of stepper-motor based machines.So are you guys saying just to leave the normally closed side unconnected?, and just use the signal to do everything?
If the PC locks up with a stepper system it will stop making steps. If it locks with a servo system it could leave the motors running at full speed.
So, in the former case you can trust the PC to be alive if the motors are turning.
You probably want to kill the spindle motor power in hardware, though.
On my lathe the approach I took was to wire the main contactor power through the E-stop NC connector. Then I have an input to the controller that monitors the contactor coil voltage. So hard-estop triggers soft e-stop. But this is a fairly powerful servo system.
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