12V encoder interfacing with 7i77, schematic?

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10 years 8 months ago #70579 by djs14
Hello all,

I feel like I'm making progress on my project, thanks to you guys!

I'm ready to wire up encoders and make things move, but realized my encoders are 12v out not 5v.

Can I just use a resistor inline to knock down the voltage? These are the axis encoders:



Now on the spindle encoder AND drive, I have no info or wiring diagram. Here's a pic of the encoder.



And here's a pic of the drive. I found some info on line for similar part numbers but the numbering scheme did not make sense with what I see on this drive. This is an old Miyano 7BC lathe I'm retro fitting.



Thanks for any input and guidance.

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10 years 8 months ago #70585 by djs14
Hooking up a couple 100 ohm resistors in series and doing some basic ohms law calc's I came up with a resistance of 1000 ohm for the encoder (ex. A+) leg. With 12V at the encoder, I measured 2v at the first resistor and 1v at the second resistor.

Doing some series ohm's law calculations I could use one 700 ohm resistor to get 5v or use two 1000 ohm resistors (roughly) in series and tap in between the 1000 ohm resistors. (12v/3 = 4vdc) ... maybe too low, but am I understanding the concept correctly? Is one configuration better than the other?

Thank you

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10 years 8 months ago #70586 by Todd Zuercher
What I think you need to do is build a voltage divider with a couple of resisters.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_divider

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10 years 8 months ago - 10 years 8 months ago #70587 by djs14
OK thanks. It just seemed too simple to make these encoders work with the mesa hardware :). Edit: This is true with regards to the X and Z encoders ... the spindle encoder I have no clue on right now nor do I the drive :(.

cheers

There were schematics clearly labeled righ on the X and Z encoders but nothing on the spindle encoder... just p/n
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10 years 8 months ago - 10 years 8 months ago #70603 by cncbasher
sometimes it's worth just trying the encoders on 5v , iv'e found in 70% of cases they work without any problems
what details do you have on your spindle encoder ? picture etc
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10 years 8 months ago - 10 years 8 months ago #70621 by djs14

cncbasher wrote: sometimes it's worth just trying the encoders on 5v , iv'e found in 70% of cases they work without any problems
what details do you have on your spindle encoder ? picture etc


Ok thanks for the tip. Right now I've been able to get a lot of things working without re-wire. There's a separate isolated power supply that runs the encoders and some other things. I think it will be easier to just do a voltage divider for now if there's now downside. There's also a tach built into the encoders ... they probably need the 12v .... or am I just being lazy ;).

I posted a pic of the spindle encoder above.

There's also a pic of the drive model number above. I found schematics for MT 500 drives but couldn't correlate it to this beast.

Here's a zoomed back pick of the drive. It's a mammoth. I've seen these drives for sale on ebay and the area on the top left looks to be a little different between models. It is referred to as the "sequence unit". I'm not sure if it's easier to tap into that or figure out how that unit is actually talking to the drive and tap directly into the drive.




Any input here greatly appreciated!

Thank you
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