Injection molding

More
14 Oct 2025 21:48 #336451 by vre
Injection molding was created by vre
Can linuxcnc used as controller for hydraulic injection molding machine ?
For example to read thermocouples and do pid temperature control
actuate hydraulic solenoids read linear scales encoders and pressure sensors.
Does anyone have done retrofit of injection molding machine with linuxcnc ?
A machine that is not gcode controlled and not have linear axes..

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 Oct 2025 22:27 #336457 by langdons
Replied by langdons on topic Injection molding
A picture and a description of the scope and size of the machine would be helpful.

Hydraulic machines can be very powerful, be careful!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • unknown
  • Away
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
15 Oct 2025 00:02 #336464 by unknown
Replied by unknown on topic Injection molding
There's an example of an electronic gearbox for a lathe, no gcode, just a custom GUI and some HAL connections.

Probably not a lot that you can use, but an example of what you can do.

My guess would be as long as you can get the data into linuxcnc and output any control values based on the input you should be fine. This would probably require some custom HAL written components to operate on the data and apply the output required. Oh yeah and maybe a gui.

The absolute simplest example I can think of is the parallel port tester, doesn't have any kinematics, but does allow you to control outputs and read the state of inputs.

Just throwing this out there.
MRO is another example. Maybe this could be a starting point, just start be reading data and displaying it, once you have that nailed, you could start with some simple HAL components to manipulate your data.
linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/mdro.html

Not an exact implementation but kind a simple example of what is achievable.

No doubt Andy will have a better idea and contradict everything Ive said, as he's way way more knowledgeable.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • tommylight
  • tommylight's Avatar
  • Away
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
15 Oct 2025 00:19 #336466 by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Injection molding
LinuxCNC can do all that, and much more, but it is much better to use a micro controller for that task, usually PLC, but you can make your own PLC just search for "arduino PLC" or "ESP32 PLC" .

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
16 Oct 2025 09:16 #336534 by vre
Replied by vre on topic Injection molding
The machine is the same model as this

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
16 Oct 2025 12:13 #336541 by timo
Replied by timo on topic Injection molding
Entry level regular PLCs are not all that expensive as well.

Linux CNC has Classic ladder to do PLC logic.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • tommylight
  • tommylight's Avatar
  • Away
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
16 Oct 2025 14:25 #336553 by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Injection molding
First such machine i fixed was back in 1990 !!!
They are complicated machines, but all are made from simple parts, so look at it as separate parts, makes it much easier.
The main hurdle with retrofitting such machines is the logic and interlocks, writing down whatever you already know will help a lot during programing.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
16 Oct 2025 14:27 #336554 by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Injection molding
It could be done. It's probably how I would do it if I had to control an injection moulding machine, but only because I already know how to use LinuxCNC.
(when your only tool is a hammer....)

Getting temperature into LinuxCNC HAL is not the easiest thing. One option is:
linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/man/man9/max31855.9.html

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
16 Oct 2025 22:08 #336573 by langdons
Replied by langdons on topic Injection molding
It might be easier to have a separate, dedicated, thermostat-like device for the temperature.

Simple on-off stuff does not need the "brains" of a pc.

You can use a regular thermostat if you somehow "fudge" the sensor impendance.

Perhaps someone has adapted QtDragon for this purpose or something.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • tommylight
  • tommylight's Avatar
  • Away
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
16 Oct 2025 22:47 #336575 by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Injection molding
Another cheap option for reading thermistors is LM331, a voltage-to-frequency converter
www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm331.pdf?ts=1760588182451
Or an industrial solution by Mesa, the THCAD

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.107 seconds
Powered by Kunena Forum