New subforum for physical HMI?

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2 years 5 months ago #300387 by TangentAudio

Isn't all of that "User interface" though? That section is obviously dedicated to *Graphical* User Interfaces but if you think about the fact that everything you interact with on anything you consider an "HMI" is either a duplicate, or replacement, or facilitates the graphical user interface....isn't that where HMI and all the other stuff mentioned above really belongs? Maybe split out a sub forum for hardware user interfaces or something
 
Thanks, that's exactly the point I was trying to make.  I think it's valuable to have a subforum within the User Interface section dedicated to various hardware user interface elements.  Maybe my mistake was using the somewhat old-fashioned "HMI" (Human-Machine Interface) term in when pleading my case, but it's really synonymous with "User Interface." 

With all due respect to JT, I still don't feel like the Computer Hardware subforum is the right place for those discussions. 
 

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2 years 5 months ago #300388 by blazini36

Isn't all of that "User interface" though? That section is obviously dedicated to *Graphical* User Interfaces but if you think about the fact that everything you interact with on anything you consider an "HMI" is either a duplicate, or replacement, or facilitates the graphical user interface....isn't that where HMI and all the other stuff mentioned above really belongs? Maybe split out a sub forum for hardware user interfaces or something
 
Thanks, that's exactly the point I was trying to make.  I think it's valuable to have a subforum within the User Interface section dedicated to various hardware user interface elements.  Maybe my mistake was using the somewhat old-fashioned "HMI" (Human-Machine Interface) term in when pleading my case, but it's really synonymous with "User Interface." 

With all due respect to JT, I still don't feel like the Computer Hardware subforum is the right place for those discussions. 

 
Yeah I agree about it not being mixed with Computers as it's generally not "computer" hardware anymore than a Mesa card is. At some level it connects to a computer but if you don't consider it part of the computer it does not belong there.....

For example you can buy various EtherCAT physical HMIs on Aliexpress, or as mentioned you can use a 7i73 to make your own, or use something like arduino-connector to build one.....I don't think any of that's part of a computer but it's certainly belongs in an HMI subforum.

Another point for it being part of User Interfaces I was trying to make JT himself would probably get since he's been working on JET. JET obviously belongs in user interfaces. I've been working on an all-in-one control device, touchscreen, MPG, buttons, knobs, keyboard, etc. If I used JET to make a UI, I'm probably not going to put a FeedRato O/R on the UI because I have a physical encoder for it, same with spindle control, run/stop, etc. It's all part of the same thing, it's the hardware side of the User Interface. Like you may use Gmoccapy because you only use a touchscreen, you may use something with less UI controls because you have more hardware controls.

If I go to the Computer's section it's because I want to find out if mobile CPUs are OK, or how much RAM I might expect to use, or what NIC plays nice with Mesa cards. I wouldn't even expect to go there to find out about whether a USB MPG is OK, if it existed I'd expect to find that in a hardware subforum of User Interfaces.
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2 years 5 months ago - 2 years 5 months ago #300437 by JT
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JET has been replaced with Flex GUI... gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/index.html

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2 years 5 months ago - 2 years 5 months ago #300522 by TangentAudio
Case in point, I've been working on a project that adds support for StreamDeck macro keypads that have built-in displays.  The computer hardware forum is not the right place to discuss it, in my opinion.  I started this thread about a new subforum around the same time I started that project, knowing I'd eventually want a sensible place to discuss it, and other related topics.

I started a thread for the project in "Show your stuff" for now.  forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/52628...-for-linuxcnc#300521
 
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2 years 5 months ago #300525 by blazini36
Sounds like the case has fallen on deaf ears lol. Haven't seen any "engagement" on this one.

If you search for any of those devices mentioned above, they're all over the place but the one place they are not is the Computers section. I don't think changing the name from Computers and OS's to Computers and Hardware is going to change that.

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