stretch install no hostmot2 in synaptic

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17 Jun 2019 20:51 #137160 by jgnoss
I installed a fresh machine with stretch and preempt following instruction on gnipsel.com, (thank's John for that)
- cp over my config files from another machine running wheezy and 2.8.
- configs fail to start because of missing Mesa firmware files.
- opening synaptic search hostmot2 -> no results

I know there is a lot of possibilities to get mesa firmware to the right place on my computer and make my new install work.
But because I see a lot of cleanup going on I'll ask

What's the "official way" to get mesa firmware installed by apt?

Ju

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18 Jun 2019 00:08 #137167 by BigJohnT
Is this for a Mesa 5i20 or similar card?

JT

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18 Jun 2019 01:09 #137169 by jgnoss
It's for a 5I23

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18 Jun 2019 05:36 #137173 by pl7i92
can you look into
/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules

what moduels are installed
and in terminal
locate hm2

to see if you got the files for the 5i23

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18 Jun 2019 07:58 - 18 Jun 2019 08:28 #137177 by jgnoss
To understand my post, it's not a problem of making that run on my new machine
I do just cp the firmware files from the other machine to /lib/firmware/ and it runs.

But that's not an option for users that doesn't have that files on another machine.
The linuxcnc wiki tells you to search for hostmot2 in synaptic, but that search doesn't
give any results on a clean stretch install, having a file .

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/linuxcnc-buildbot.list
that contains

deb buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ stretch master-rtpreempt
deb-src buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ stretch master-rtpreempt


responding the question of pl7i92:

a lot in /usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/

reduced to show what seems to be related to hostmot

# ls /usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/hm*
/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/hm2_7i43.so
/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/hm2_rpspi.so
/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/hm2_7i90.so
/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/hm2_spi.so
/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/hm2_eth.so
/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/hm2_test.so
/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules/hm2_pci.so

# locate hm2
#

linuxcnc is looking for //lib/firmware/hm2/5i23/SVST4_8.BIT

the related lines from error report:

Could not locate firmware "//lib/firmware/hm2/5i23/SVST4_8.BIT". (No such file or directory)
hm2/hm2_5i23.0: firmware hm2/5i23/SVST4_8.BIT not found
hm2/hm2_5i23.0: install the package containing the firmware.
hm2_5i23.0: board fails HM2 registration
Last edit: 18 Jun 2019 08:28 by jgnoss.

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18 Jun 2019 11:29 #137180 by BigJohnT
For some reason unknown to me the hostmot2 drivers are not in stretch. The last release to have the hostmot2 drivers was Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid.

I searched through the linuxcnc.org/dists/ to be sure. The hostmot2 drivers are in the base/source directory.

You would have to build and install the hostmot2 drivers from the github repo.
github.com/LinuxCNC/hostmot2-firmware

JT

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18 Jun 2019 15:17 - 18 Jun 2019 15:24 #137193 by jgnoss
As I wrote in my last post, I do have that firmware on another machine, so I don't
need to build them myself.

The question is, what do another users do if they come across that problem?

What do you do suggest?

Changing the wiki to say
- users have to install the Xilinx ISE and compile the firmware themselves
- hacking the apt source list file to get the firmware from older Debian distribution
- downloading it from somewhere else in the web

I think we shouldn't provide hack's, better is straight forward install.

Maybe seb can have a look at that and figure out why that stuff disappeared in stretch.

I'm on building a deb from master now. If it's done I'll see if the firmware gets installed.
Last edit: 18 Jun 2019 15:24 by jgnoss.

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18 Jun 2019 15:25 #137196 by pl7i92
This needs to be in the STETCH Documentation on howto install
the eth will work from simple install but expanding to special cards will need a self interfear with new compile

README file neds to be changed from 2.8
wiki updated on 5i23 -> need driver compile from 2.8

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18 Jun 2019 15:56 - 18 Jun 2019 15:57 #137201 by jgnoss
You guys are talking about drivers.
I may be ignorant but isn't it the firmware for the Mesa cards that's missing?
If I copy the firmware to the right folder on my new stretch install all works fine.

On my understanding, the firmware is the bit code that get's loaded into the FPGA
that sits on mesa cards like 5I23.
That code is not easy to compile/generate. Installing the xilix ISE is pretty heavy load.
Isn't it easier to provide precompiled firmware for that cards in binary and include that
in the distro tree as it was before?
Last edit: 18 Jun 2019 15:57 by jgnoss.

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18 Jun 2019 16:51 #137207 by tommylight
They are provided by Mesa on their website, always, at least i am sure for 5i25/6i25 although they do not need it to run.
5i23 needs that at startup or it will not work, lemme check....
You they are there as you can see in the attached pic.

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