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Results of latency test, list of computers tested for use with LinuxCNC
What were the latencies you got with mint?
tommylight already pointed out that debian is "a bit better" on latencies than mint. I observed the same when running the test on both mint (19.3 in my case) and debian buster (10.4 to 10.5) on the same machine.
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On two older laptops i can not get usable latency for a Mesa ethernet board with Preempt-RT and Mate, but i can get very usable latency with XFCE and same kernel.
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tommylight wrote: I do have 3 of the ASUS A270Z PRO MB in use, but not for machines !
They are busy mining ethereum.
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I had to go check that out and was some interesting reading about Ethereum. I had never really read about how it worked until seeing your post and had to go see what it was about.
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seuchato wrote: Himarc3D
What were the latencies you got with mint?
tommylight already pointed out that debian is "a bit better" on latencies than mint. I observed the same when running the test on both mint (19.3 in my case) and debian buster (10.4 to 10.5) on the same machine.
Greez
chris
Sorry for late reply, im busy working!
The difference was minimal, i just let Debian because was the last in the tests.
I can test again this weekend and save the data, ill check the Mint with 2.8 release. Ill check next Thursday using p/2 mouse and keyboard too if make anu difference for my setup.
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The Mint 19.3 ISO with 2.8 should not be any different to the Mint 19.2 ISO with 2.8~pre as the both use the same 4.x series kernel (I found this to be the best). Exactly the same kernel actually from the same package. The Linuxcnc packages are compiled on a 19.2 box.
If there are latency issues and you want to use the Parallel Port there is a RTAI kernel that Andy is working on.
Reducing the amount of USB hardware can help with latency, one thing I do when machining is to turn off wifi.
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Thank you for advice but in my case i just will install it because i read somewhere from Tommy about things sometimes dont work like they are supposed to be using Debian, and many veterans here at forum use Mint, so ill follow you guys!BeagleBrainz wrote: Chasing the last nano second of latency is not really worth it, especially with Mesa hardware.
The Mint 19.3 ISO with 2.8 should not be any different to the Mint 19.2 ISO with 2.8~pre as the both use the same 4.x series kernel (I found this to be the best). Exactly the same kernel actually from the same package. The Linuxcnc packages are compiled on a 19.2 box.
If there are latency issues and you want to use the Parallel Port there is a RTAI kernel that Andy is working on.
Reducing the amount of USB hardware can help with latency, one thing I do when machining is to turn off wifi.
My minipc don’t have parallel port or expansion slot...actually i don’t recommended this minipc, get very hot and no way to use inside cabinet (passive here big cabinet, maybe i test positive pressure using welder vest like vortex ilask my friend to use his vortex for a while), if i swap dsub to hmi or vice versa the desktop become clean, after clean install of OS using any GUI i get clean desktop too, just right mouse click work and keyboard to invoke terminal and configure primary monitor.
The bios I disabled many things, include sound but the kernel loaded the module, I blacklisted sound, Bluetooth, wifi, everything I don’t need
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Looking at the promising results of this 4 core i5, I will retest the 980 here (two core i5 cpu) and compare them.
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PS: I will probably later add here in this post the very bios settings used
Edit: 19. Oct. 2020: Bios Settings are as follows, I only write up what I changed from defaults:
- General
- Boot sequence: Excluded "USB Floppy Drive" and "Onboard Network Controller"
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Drives
- "Diskette Drive" disabled
- "SATA Operation": "RAID Autodetect /AHCI"
- "SMART Reporting": enabled
- System Configuration
- "Parallel Port": EPP
- "Miscellaneous Devices": disbled "Audio", "Opütiplex ON Reader" and "WiFi NIC Slot"
- Performance
- "Hyper-Threding Technology": disabled
- "Intel(R) Turbo Boost Technology": disabled
- "Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM)": disabled
- "C States Control": disabled
- Virtualization Support
- "Virtualization": disabled
- "VT for Direct I/O": disabled
- Power Managment
- "Low Power Mode": disabled
- "Suspend Mode": S3 (there is no option to disable it completely)
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BeagleBrainz wrote: Chasing the last nano second of latency is not really worth it, ...
100% true
BeagleBrainz wrote: ... 4.x series kernel (I found this to be the best).
Same conclusion here: 4x kernels are the best for the time being-
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The -rt46 has efi=runtime embedded in the kernel image but should not affect non UEFI systems.
cnc.beaglebrainz.net/mintcnc/pool/2.8-rt...t44-lcnc-1_amd64.deb
cnc.beaglebrainz.net/mintcnc/pool/2.8-rt...t46-lcnc-1_amd64.deb
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