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V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
4 years 4 months ago #245544
by MrJRB
I've been attempting to communicate with my V70 series VFD from stepperonline via RS485 USB dongle with no luck whatsoever.
I've configured all the expected VFD settings as per it's manual here .
F001 : 2 - control via coms port
F002 : 2 - frequency setting use coms port
F163 : 1 - modbus slave address 1
F164 : 1 - 9600 baud rate
F165 : 3 - 8 bit no parity 1 end for RTU
F169 : 0 - Use modbus instead of v70 protocol (was factory default despite manual stating otherwise)
Dongle link, wiring & VFD pinout photo:
Dongle link
A to RS485+
B to RS485-
GND to GND
Tried swapping the A and B connections with no luck.
Attempted to connect via spindle talker 2 on windows with no luck either.
Screenshot of my vfd config in PnCConf:
I'm at an odds at this point given I think the dongle is fine given it shows up in windows device manager, PnCConf external controls and via terminal
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Seems I'm in the same situation as Jason on this forum .
What options do I have for troubleshooting RS485?
Terminal tests, multimeter testing the VFD's protocol ports?
I've tried a simple halrun test as well.
I've configured all the expected VFD settings as per it's manual here .
F001 : 2 - control via coms port
F002 : 2 - frequency setting use coms port
F163 : 1 - modbus slave address 1
F164 : 1 - 9600 baud rate
F165 : 3 - 8 bit no parity 1 end for RTU
F169 : 0 - Use modbus instead of v70 protocol (was factory default despite manual stating otherwise)
Dongle link, wiring & VFD pinout photo:
Dongle link
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A to RS485+
B to RS485-
GND to GND
Tried swapping the A and B connections with no luck.
Attempted to connect via spindle talker 2 on windows with no luck either.
Screenshot of my vfd config in PnCConf:
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I'm at an odds at this point given I think the dongle is fine given it shows up in windows device manager, PnCConf external controls and via terminal
Code:
lsusb
Seems I'm in the same situation as Jason on this forum .
What options do I have for troubleshooting RS485?
Terminal tests, multimeter testing the VFD's protocol ports?
I've tried a simple halrun test as well.
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4 years 4 months ago #245547
by spumco
Replied by spumco on topic V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
Suggest the following, in order...
#1 - check jumper J4; factory default is RS485 comms OFF. See page 8 in manual.
#2 - As cheap as they are, try another dongle. Just because it's showing up as a valid USB device doesn't mean it's working (i.e. output/input to the VFD).
#1 - check jumper J4; factory default is RS485 comms OFF. See page 8 in manual.
#2 - As cheap as they are, try another dongle. Just because it's showing up as a valid USB device doesn't mean it's working (i.e. output/input to the VFD).
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4 years 4 months ago #245552
by MrJRB
Replied by MrJRB on topic V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
#1
J4 is in the OFF position indeed so it's that's not the issue.
#2
I suppose I should, it's a shame given the amazon reviews had a user using it with a HuanYang VFD.
I'll buy another one from this supplier (given they worked for some) and another elsewhere then.
J4 is in the OFF position indeed so it's that's not the issue.
#2
I suppose I should, it's a shame given the amazon reviews had a user using it with a HuanYang VFD.
I'll buy another one from this supplier (given they worked for some) and another elsewhere then.
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4 years 4 months ago #245556
by tommylight
Should it be ON ?
Replied by tommylight on topic V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
#1 - check jumper J4; factory default is RS485 comms OFF. See page 8 in manual.
Should it be ON ?
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4 years 4 months ago #245560
by spumco
Replied by spumco on topic V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
YES!
If the jumper is OFF, RS485 is OFF - at least that's my interpretation of the manual.
If the jumper is OFF, RS485 is OFF - at least that's my interpretation of the manual.
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4 years 4 months ago #245561
by MrJRB
Replied by MrJRB on topic V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
I should've mentioned this earlier but I've tried with the jumper in both the ON and OFF positions to no avail, apologies.
I've ordered some more dongles now, will take a few days to arrive though.
I've ordered some more dongles now, will take a few days to arrive though.
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4 years 4 months ago #245570
by tommylight

That is for termination only, but still i would leave it ON, not OFF.
If there are more than two devices on the RS485 chain, then the two at the ends of the line should be terminated, the rest in between should not be terminated.
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That is for termination only, but still i would leave it ON, not OFF.
If there are more than two devices on the RS485 chain, then the two at the ends of the line should be terminated, the rest in between should not be terminated.
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4 years 4 months ago #245573
by Hakan
Replied by Hakan on topic V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
Does the VFD actually work with the huan yang driver? I don't think it is real modbus.
Maybe try with the real modbus hal component.
Maybe try with the real modbus hal component.
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4 years 4 months ago #245583
by MrJRB
Likely not in hindsight, I hadn't realised spindle talker was written only for huan yang vfds...
How would I go about utilising the real modbus component, what's it's name?
Replied by MrJRB on topic V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
Does the VFD actually work with the huan yang driver? I don't think it is real modbus.
Maybe try with the real modbus hal component.
Likely not in hindsight, I hadn't realised spindle talker was written only for huan yang vfds...
How would I go about utilising the real modbus component, what's it's name?
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4 years 4 months ago #245595
by MrJRB
Replied by MrJRB on topic V70 stepperonline VFD not responding to RS485 USB not sure what left to try.
Okay well I've discovered MB2HAL, have modified the example .ini to suit my VFD.
I've now managed to communicate with my VFD, so hurrah, it's not borked!
This example here sets the setting F002 to 0, amusingly cutting off communication understandably.
Setting FIRST_ELEMENT was what defined which setting was changed, no idea what defines the value.
I was trying to set the frequency and in turn the value of the register address seen in the example below. (as I read that was what you set the first element to.)
So the question is, what do I do now?
I've attached my .ini file for reference.
I've now managed to communicate with my VFD, so hurrah, it's not borked!
This example here sets the setting F002 to 0, amusingly cutting off communication understandably.
Code:
[TRANSACTION_01]
MB_TX_CODE=fnct_04_read_input_registers
FIRST_ELEMENT=2
NELEMENTS=3
HAL_TX_NAME=XDrive02
MAX_UPDATE_RATE=10.0
DEBUG=1
Setting FIRST_ELEMENT was what defined which setting was changed, no idea what defines the value.
I was trying to set the frequency and in turn the value of the register address seen in the example below. (as I read that was what you set the first element to.)
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So the question is, what do I do now?
I've attached my .ini file for reference.
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