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ArcOK when not built-in
5 years 5 months ago - 5 years 5 months ago #209805
by Joco
ArcOK when not built-in was created by Joco
I have donevthe reading and understand the reed switch approach. I have even tested that setup to prove to myself it will work.
However it feels some what “hacky”. I was wondering if using a sensor such as this dc current sensor would not be an option?
When reading the items description please also refer to the photos. This is a DC sensor not an AC only as some of the text implies.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Cheers - J.
However it feels some what “hacky”. I was wondering if using a sensor such as this dc current sensor would not be an option?
When reading the items description please also refer to the photos. This is a DC sensor not an AC only as some of the text implies.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Cheers - J.
Last edit: 5 years 5 months ago by Joco.
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5 years 5 months ago #209808
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic ArcOK when not built-in
Another not so "hacky" DIY approach you could try is to grab a ferrite ring large enough for the ground lead to pass through. Cut a slot in it and glue in a hall effect sensor like this
www.jaycar.com.au/ugn3503ua-hall-effect-sensor/p/ZD1902
You can grab some plastic rod and machine a housing for it to make it all neat.
I did make one of these but the plasma cutter died so I never used it.
Beefy has used an ACS758 current sensor which you can buy as a prebuilt module on ebay, Add to that a LM358 small signal amplifier (also available as a prebuilt module) to step up to say 24 volts and read it on a 7i76e analog input.
www.jaycar.com.au/ugn3503ua-hall-effect-sensor/p/ZD1902
You can grab some plastic rod and machine a housing for it to make it all neat.
I did make one of these but the plasma cutter died so I never used it.
Beefy has used an ACS758 current sensor which you can buy as a prebuilt module on ebay, Add to that a LM358 small signal amplifier (also available as a prebuilt module) to step up to say 24 volts and read it on a 7i76e analog input.
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5 years 5 months ago #209814
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic ArcOK when not built-in
That should also work.
But lately i am starting to wonder why bother as i have been using two of my plasma tables for the last two months intentionally with the ARC_OK disabled in hal, with two different plasma sources and two different THCAD's while changing plasma supplies from time to time, using QTPlasmaC with debounce's at default, and i just do not have misfires or arc lost.
Take this as testing only, as the amount of use was pretty low, but the amount of experimenting was high, shamefully due to me skipping some steps in PncConf and then chasing gremlins .....
As for the reed switch, it never fails, must have over 10 plasma's using it daily on production machines.
But lately i am starting to wonder why bother as i have been using two of my plasma tables for the last two months intentionally with the ARC_OK disabled in hal, with two different plasma sources and two different THCAD's while changing plasma supplies from time to time, using QTPlasmaC with debounce's at default, and i just do not have misfires or arc lost.
Take this as testing only, as the amount of use was pretty low, but the amount of experimenting was high, shamefully due to me skipping some steps in PncConf and then chasing gremlins .....
As for the reed switch, it never fails, must have over 10 plasma's using it daily on production machines.
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5 years 5 months ago - 5 years 5 months ago #209861
by Joco
Replied by Joco on topic ArcOK when not built-in
Thanks for the replies. I appreciate you sharing you experience.
When you guys refer to reed switches I assume you mean the reed side of these types of parts and not the little glass ones.
www.jaycar.co.nz/miniature-security-alarm-reed-switch/p/LA5074 Or
www.jaycar.co.nz/security-alarm-reed-switch/p/LA5072
The dc sensor looks like a potentially slick way of doing things but the more i look at this and reading your comments, just getting a spare earth lead i can dedicate to the table and do the reed swtch wrapped in lead. Its sounding like it will be the simplest, cheapest and probably robust option. I can bundle it all up in some plastic tube or a small plastic box to make it all tidy.
Essentially over engineering this isn’t going to gain you anything, at least that I can see.
Cheers.
When you guys refer to reed switches I assume you mean the reed side of these types of parts and not the little glass ones.
www.jaycar.co.nz/miniature-security-alarm-reed-switch/p/LA5074 Or
www.jaycar.co.nz/security-alarm-reed-switch/p/LA5072
The dc sensor looks like a potentially slick way of doing things but the more i look at this and reading your comments, just getting a spare earth lead i can dedicate to the table and do the reed swtch wrapped in lead. Its sounding like it will be the simplest, cheapest and probably robust option. I can bundle it all up in some plastic tube or a small plastic box to make it all tidy.
Essentially over engineering this isn’t going to gain you anything, at least that I can see.
Cheers.
Last edit: 5 years 5 months ago by Joco.
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5 years 5 months ago #209864
by phillc54
Replied by phillc54 on topic ArcOK when not built-in
I am pretty sure they the type that Clive used here:
linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/plasma/qtpl....html#qt_reed-arc-ok
linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/plasma/qtpl....html#qt_reed-arc-ok
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5 years 5 months ago #209869
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic ArcOK when not built-in
I still have some glass ones and some plastic ones, they are the same thing.
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