Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
18 Aug 2019 05:20 #142414
by shasse
Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry? was created by shasse
I am in the process of configuring a XXYZ servo gantry using a Mesa 7i93+two 7i40s + a 7i37TA. I installed from the iso, configured usapce and I am able to move motors. I see there is some significant work in master regarding Joint Axes and gantry. Based on that, I am wondering what path people here would recommend for getting a machine going right now. Should I work with what is available in 2.7 or is it worth moving to the bleeding edge? How sharp is the bleeding edge currently with respect to independent servo homing?
Thanks for the advice!
Scott
Thanks for the advice!
Scott
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18 Aug 2019 06:57 #142417
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
Version 2.8 is the next distribution which is not far away so if you want to keep right off the edge. From 2.8 and on, there are better features for gantry machines which I've used on my gantry machine using master branch since 2015 without too many problems.
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18 Aug 2019 07:04 #142418
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
If you are worried about the maturity of gantry homing, do not, i have a big industrial plasna running 2.8pre very early build working for over a year every day all day. It also does a lot of homings during work as they cut diferent thicknes materials and a lot of scrap left over.
And yes it uses servo motors on both sides with reduction. Retrofit of an Esab.
And yes it uses servo motors on both sides with reduction. Retrofit of an Esab.
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18 Aug 2019 18:29 #142449
by shasse
Replied by shasse on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
I presume this will take me even further off the pncconf path than a gantry machine would in the first place? I'm not against that per se, but I just want to understand what I'm getting myself in for.
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18 Aug 2019 19:03 #142451
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
Editing 2 files with some copy/paste acction is fairly easy. That is all.
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18 Aug 2019 21:32 #142455
by shasse
Replied by shasse on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
Fantastic, thank you!
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27 Aug 2019 16:42 #143333
by andypugh
Possibly not, I have a feeling that 2.8 pncconf might understand gantries.
But you certainly want to be using the 2.8 pncconf rather than making a 2.7 config and converting it.
Replied by andypugh on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
I presume this will take me even further off the pncconf path than a gantry machine would in the first place?
Possibly not, I have a feeling that 2.8 pncconf might understand gantries.
But you certainly want to be using the 2.8 pncconf rather than making a 2.7 config and converting it.
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27 Aug 2019 19:53 #143350
by rodw
I'm sure pncconf in V 2.8 understands gantries becasue I was asked to test it about 2-3 years ago.
Before that point, it was suggested you make a XYZA machine and edit the A by hand. So I'm sure it would be harder in V 2.7
Replied by rodw on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
Possibly not, I have a feeling that 2.8 pncconf might understand gantries.
But you certainly want to be using the 2.8 pncconf rather than making a 2.7 config and converting it.
I'm sure pncconf in V 2.8 understands gantries becasue I was asked to test it about 2-3 years ago.
Before that point, it was suggested you make a XYZA machine and edit the A by hand. So I'm sure it would be harder in V 2.7
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27 Aug 2019 20:00 #143352
by shasse
Replied by shasse on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
Great, I am hoping to be able to try this within the next week. I'll update with my results.
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28 Aug 2019 04:22 - 28 Aug 2019 04:23 #143392
by shasse
Replied by shasse on topic Best current advice for XXYZ servo gantry?
I tried this tonight and it seems that while stepper gantry (tandem) pncconf configuration is supported in 2.8, servo gantries are not fully supported until 2.9.0-pre0 (github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/825b...1e6def81c871afe60f5b). The config was close though, so I think some minor edits should get something workable.
Secondly, the instructions on the forums for 2.8 currently have you end up with 2.9. To get 2.8 installed I had to add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linuxcnc-buildbot.list:
deb buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ wheezy 2.8-sim
deb-src buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ wheezy 2.8-sim
(I believe, I am away from the machine right now). This seems like a minor documentation bug, as buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ currently does not provide a documented way to get 2.8 installed.
I have not run the machine yet with this config but hopefully will have a chance to play with it this weekend.
Thanks for the help getting me this far!
Scott
Secondly, the instructions on the forums for 2.8 currently have you end up with 2.9. To get 2.8 installed I had to add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linuxcnc-buildbot.list:
deb buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ wheezy 2.8-sim
deb-src buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ wheezy 2.8-sim
(I believe, I am away from the machine right now). This seems like a minor documentation bug, as buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ currently does not provide a documented way to get 2.8 installed.
I have not run the machine yet with this config but hopefully will have a chance to play with it this weekend.
Thanks for the help getting me this far!
Scott
Last edit: 28 Aug 2019 04:23 by shasse.
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