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VFD Selection for Rigid Tapping
3 years 10 months ago #258836
by spumco
Replied by spumco on topic VFD Selection for Rigid Tapping
Good to hear.
One parting thought... I found a old note to myself in my VFD settings spreadsheet. Seems I set the decel curve to linear (trapezoidal) instead of S-curve. I think I gained a tidbit of decel speed (probably half a second) by changing the curve. Accel remained S-curve (default).
One parting thought... I found a old note to myself in my VFD settings spreadsheet. Seems I set the decel curve to linear (trapezoidal) instead of S-curve. I think I gained a tidbit of decel speed (probably half a second) by changing the curve. Accel remained S-curve (default).
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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #258837
by COlger81
Replied by COlger81 on topic VFD Selection for Rigid Tapping
Noted. One thing i like about leaving the mill in sensorless vector for low speed tapping is the gobs of torque it has at low speed.
10HP spindle motor
10HP spindle motor
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3 years 10 months ago #258840
by spumco
Replied by spumco on topic VFD Selection for Rigid Tapping
Oh yes indeed. I've got a buddy with two Fadal 6030's and in low range the 20hp Baldor will destroy stuff. Definately not 'Haaspower'.Noted. One thing i like about leaving the mill in sensorless vector for low speed tapping is the gobs of torque it has at low speed.
10HP spindle motor
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3 years 10 months ago #258893
by scotth
Replied by scotth on topic VFD Selection for Rigid Tapping
An old K&T trick was to tap in the next higher gear than for milling.
This cuts accel and decel times. Torque should not be a problem.
They called it extended tap range.
This cuts accel and decel times. Torque should not be a problem.
They called it extended tap range.
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3 years 9 months ago #262322
by msurmei
Replied by msurmei on topic VFD Selection for Rigid Tapping
Couple of questions, if I may. What kind of encoder have you used with the Marathon BlackMax motor ? Did you fit the encoder on the motor or somewere else?
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3 years 9 months ago #262339
by spumco
Replied by spumco on topic VFD Selection for Rigid Tapping
The motor came with a Dynapar HS35 installed, but it was a 2048-line unit which was too high a pulse frequency (at max RPM) for my input board at the time. Would have been fine at 1800rpm, but I was spinning the motor up to 5k.
I replaced it with a US Digital E6 that was ~400/ppr (1600 post-quad).
Encoder was motor mounted (not spindle), and the 1:1.54 belt ratio was programmed in to the control. Index signal for rigid tapping was accomplished by mounting a small plastic ring on the top of the spindle and holding it in place with a steel set screw. The set screw triggered a fairly high frequency proximity sensor (~7khz), which was connected to the control as the index signal.
The encoder's built-in index signal was left unconnected.
I never tried tapping at really high speeds, but I did have an 'oopsie' moment and wound up tapping a 1/4-28 hole in aluminum at ~5000rpm spindle speeds. I crapped my pants, but the spindle & Z-axis never complained.
I replaced it with a US Digital E6 that was ~400/ppr (1600 post-quad).
Encoder was motor mounted (not spindle), and the 1:1.54 belt ratio was programmed in to the control. Index signal for rigid tapping was accomplished by mounting a small plastic ring on the top of the spindle and holding it in place with a steel set screw. The set screw triggered a fairly high frequency proximity sensor (~7khz), which was connected to the control as the index signal.
The encoder's built-in index signal was left unconnected.
I never tried tapping at really high speeds, but I did have an 'oopsie' moment and wound up tapping a 1/4-28 hole in aluminum at ~5000rpm spindle speeds. I crapped my pants, but the spindle & Z-axis never complained.
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