Z axis mill - reverse axis overshoot
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30 Oct 2023 07:29 #284103
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I am building a mini mill and all is good, except the following.
After I have fully loaded the Z axis ( around 100kg, no counterweight ) I have noticed an overshoot at changing direction:
1) moving the axis for 1mm for several times in the same direction gives proper figures on the dial indicator (around 1mm)
2) changing direction will give me 1.05 at first move in a consistent way, then it keeps 1mm for the following moves.
3) it does not matter if direction is up or down
It was ok before loading.
I am using open loop stepper NEMA42 22Nm (6A) and DM860A (set on 5.7A peak/4A rms), with ballscrew ( previous measurement showed 0 backlash).
If I add BACKLASH=-0.05 on the Z joint the final reading is 1mm but it goes to 1.05 and back ... kind of "negative" backlash
Any suggestion?
After I have fully loaded the Z axis ( around 100kg, no counterweight ) I have noticed an overshoot at changing direction:
1) moving the axis for 1mm for several times in the same direction gives proper figures on the dial indicator (around 1mm)
2) changing direction will give me 1.05 at first move in a consistent way, then it keeps 1mm for the following moves.
3) it does not matter if direction is up or down
It was ok before loading.
I am using open loop stepper NEMA42 22Nm (6A) and DM860A (set on 5.7A peak/4A rms), with ballscrew ( previous measurement showed 0 backlash).
If I add BACKLASH=-0.05 on the Z joint the final reading is 1mm but it goes to 1.05 and back ... kind of "negative" backlash

Any suggestion?
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02 Nov 2023 23:04 #284393
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Does the error occur only when Z is going down?
Almost always that is mechanical issues, but with steppers loaded to much, also happens.
Adding a counterweight is very advisable, all that weight will have to be handled by the ballscrew.
You can also try lowering the Z axis acceleration to at least half and do some tets.
Almost always that is mechanical issues, but with steppers loaded to much, also happens.
Adding a counterweight is very advisable, all that weight will have to be handled by the ballscrew.
You can also try lowering the Z axis acceleration to at least half and do some tets.
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03 Nov 2023 17:34 #284487
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I am ashamed ... it seem the gibs were loose. I have tightened them and now is ok.
Funny but I realized that only after I've cranked up the motor current and everything was vibrating.
Yes, I'm planning some counterweight setup.
Thanks for your help!
Funny but I realized that only after I've cranked up the motor current and everything was vibrating.
Yes, I'm planning some counterweight setup.
Thanks for your help!
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03 Nov 2023 17:53 #284489
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