GIGABYTE GA-D525TUD Intel Atom D525

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30 Aug 2012 23:21 #23784 by BigJohnT
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PCW wrote:

Well, and desk space!

I just ordered a GA-D525TUD and a ASUS E35M1-M to test


Stack them up like cord wood!

John

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01 Sep 2012 02:00 #23819 by AlpineKyle
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I got the gigabyte GAD525TUD board today and installed it into a Thermaltake Element case, took about 30 minutes to get it running. I haven't had much time to tweak it but with stock bios settings and a fresh install of linuxcnc, I'm getting latency max of 13835. After fighting two machines for way too long I am thus far excited with the results. I'll try to give more numbers tomorrow as I set this up and hopefully start cutting.

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01 Sep 2012 11:58 #23826 by ArcEye
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I haven't had much time to tweak it but with stock bios settings and a fresh install of linuxcnc, I'm getting latency max of 13835

You should be able to get the latency lower just by using the isolcpus boot time parameter.
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?The_Is..._Parameter_And_GRUB2

The Intel version of this board is reported to run sub 10K max jitter after this.

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04 Sep 2012 01:33 #23871 by PCW
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OK just tested the GA-D525TUD (with 10,04/2.5.1), and I get much worse latency but I was pretty tough on it,
running flash videos and multiple glxgears, I had as bad as 49000 base thread latency. This is in the range that I can measure with the scope on all the Atom MBs (the latency test is not to be completely trusted as it does no hardware I/O that may be blocked) The isolcpus trick seems to make the average jitter better but the worst case stays about the same

The ASUS E35M1-M was significantly better with 21000, 26000 (servo/base) thread max jitters so seems like a fairly nice fanless LinuxCNC system

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04 Sep 2012 10:50 #23879 by BigJohnT
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PCW wrote:

The ASUS E35M1-M was significantly better with 21000, 26000 (servo/base) thread max jitters so seems like a fairly nice fanless LinuxCNC system


I just checked NewEgg and wouldn't you know it this board is out of stock. Also it had quite a few DOA reviews... which don't matter if you can't buy one.

How did you test the latency with your scope?

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04 Sep 2012 14:03 - 04 Sep 2012 14:08 #23881 by PCW
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Yes it was just replaced by the E45M1-M which looks identical except for a
chipset upgrade (e450 instead of e350 APU) so its a tiny bit faster.

I checked the latency with a scope by toggling an I/O bit in the servo thread

(I originally did this to see why, even though they often show good latency test results,
the Atom motheboards wont run a servo thread above about 1.5 KHz without error)
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05 Sep 2012 00:01 #23896 by PCW
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As an addenda the E35M1-M cheerfully runs a servo loop at 2KHz and will run at 4KHz but has real time errors at startup (but never again)

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05 Sep 2012 07:35 #23905 by dab77
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I've always wanted to know.. can one live with the initial realtime error, if then it doesn't appear anymore during use?

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05 Sep 2012 11:36 #23908 by ArcEye
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Hi

You mustn't confuse notifications with occurrences.

Linuxcnc only produces one realtime error warning at the first instance, no matter how many further instances there are.
If you get one straight away after starting axis, it generally means you have a serious enough problem for it not to run properly.

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05 Sep 2012 11:48 #23910 by BigJohnT
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dab77 wrote:

I've always wanted to know.. can one live with the initial realtime error, if then it doesn't appear anymore during use?


If you read the real time error carefully it will tell you that you only get one. Imagine if you have a real time latency every 100mS that was bad enough to throw an error and got an error screen for each one... I think that Axis should not even run after a real time error... or even better each time you acknowledge the error another one pops up.

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