Logitech F310 shows in lsusb but HAL config does not show it - still strange

I have two identical PCs, same version (latest 2.9.3) of LinuxCNC, same F310.  One worked immediately - on the other, the F310 shows from lsusb (the output is identical on the first PC). But HAL config does not show the input pins on the second one.

I didn't do anything different in the installs.

Both are set to X mode

The gamepad also works fine using jstest. So Linux has no problem with it - just something wrong with linuxcnc seeing it

I found that in the hal file that uses loadusr -W hal_input -KRAL <identifier>, I had overwritten this with the wrong value when reinstalling LinuxCNC and copying the hal files from backup

I changed the identifier to F310.

When I run halrun from the command line and input the above (loadusr -W hal_input -KRAL F310) and <show pin>, I now see the input pins correctly. So hal is now working

But when I run LinuxCNC itself, I still don't see the pins (using HAL config or monitor).