Radius programming problem in lathe- urgent!

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25 Sep 2014 14:42 #51555 by viski
I have simple 90° radius to make but always get an error mesage: arc is zero, can not use K in XY plane , .. and so on (:

I use diameter code :

G90 G95 G7
G96 S90
M4
G0 X75
G1 Z-12 F0.2
G2 X81 Z-15 I3 F0.2

It's 3mm arc.

i have tried adding G90.1 , G91.1 , G17 , G18 , J and K, but no luck.

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25 Sep 2014 15:29 - 25 Sep 2014 15:38 #51558 by ArcEye
Hi

If you are running in M4 I assume you have a backtool or slant-bed lathe

So do I, so ignore the strange orientation of this plot which comes from running a sim with the system set up to invert the X axis







The code that produces it is
G18 G21 G40 G49 G54 G80 G95
G90 G7
S600 M4

G0 X75
G1 Z-12 F150
G2 X81 Z-15 I3 F50
m2

ie modified for metric specifically

I can only assume that your not telling it what planes were operational (lathe or mill) threw the error.

You should get in the habit of heading all your files as above or similar to match.
Historically, this software (and Mach for that matter) was written by Americans with milling machines and the defaults you get will be imperial and XYZ.

regards
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25 Sep 2014 16:12 - 25 Sep 2014 16:15 #51560 by Rick G
As ArcEye said...

Historically, this software (and Mach for that matter) was written by Americans with milling machines and the defaults you get will be imperial and XYZ.


It often seems that lathes are considered the weak sister of the mill when it comes to software.

Also note that if you end your program with M2 instead of starting and ending it with % signs it will revert back to the xy plane.

linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/m-code.html#sec:M2-M30

Which can also make for unexpected results when entering MDI commands.

Rick G
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25 Sep 2014 19:51 - 25 Sep 2014 19:52 #51561 by ArcEye
Rick G wrote:

Also note that if you end your program with M2 instead of starting and ending it with % signs it will revert back to the xy plane.

linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/m-code.html#sec:M2-M30

Which can also make for unexpected results when entering MDI commands.


Just to clarify, Rick means if you don't set your lathe up properly to begin with, it will revert to to a mill setup if you quit the program with M2.

The ini file has a heading [RS274NGC]
under this you should have a string similar to
RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE = G80 G90 G40 G49 G21 G18 G7

This will cancel any compensation in place, put it in absolute mode, metric, lathe with diameter mode

This is the same command string your programs should begin with, especially if you terminate programs with %, as compensation can carry over to the next program with all sorts of problems otherwise.

regards
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26 Sep 2014 01:22 #51574 by viski
Thanks guys. I made it :) .

Yeh, problem was M2 . It returned machine back to mill ( g17 , XY plane ) and i recived message " arc is zero ".

Putting all G80 G90 G40 G49 G21 G18 G7 codes in nc file saved problem.

Regards

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