G93 strange behavior

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27 Mar 2023 21:47 - 27 Mar 2023 21:50 #267629 by nwallace
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I have found something strange when using G93 on my CNC router that has an A axis. Below are 2 snippets of gcode that have very different behaviors:

In this snippet the last 2 lines result in what looks like rapid moves. It does not obey the feed given. My machine is not actually capable of 0.0002" movement. The smallest movement the Z can do is approximately 0.0005".

Y0. Z1.3005
G93 A178.639 F11.0982
Z1.3003 A357.443 F11.0879
Z1.3005 A360. F773.4857

This snippet behaves as expected.

Y0. Z1.3005
G93 A178.639 F11.0982
A357.443 F11.0879
A360. F773.4857

Has anyone seen this before? Have I just configured something wrong? This gcode is coming from Fusion 360. I have not figured out a way to reliably get rid of these very small Z movements in rotary tool paths. Also interested if anyone knows how to do that.
Last edit: 27 Mar 2023 21:50 by nwallace. Reason: fix formating

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27 Mar 2023 22:37 #267635 by andypugh
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The F11,08 line should result in a move that takes about 5 seconds. Are you saying that it is faster than that?

Possibly a bug in the blending code, it is likely to discard the .0002 move in Z, but should still spend 1/11 minutes making the move.

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27 Mar 2023 23:22 #267641 by nwallace
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It moves much faster than that. Pretty sure it is moving at the max speed of the A axis.

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27 Mar 2023 23:34 #267643 by andypugh
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Which LinuxCNC version?

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27 Mar 2023 23:36 #267644 by nwallace
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I am using 2.9 on debian 12

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28 Mar 2023 00:08 #267648 by andypugh
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I can reproduce this in a sim with 2.8.4 too.

I have raised a bug report: github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2410

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28 Mar 2023 00:24 #267649 by nwallace
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Thanks for looking at this! For now I think I am going to figure out some sort of script I can run on my gcode that will remove any unnecessary Z moves. I am not very experienced when it comes to scripting but I am sure I can figure it out. Something that finds the starting Z before a G93 and then removes the Z word if it is less than a set amount different. If the difference is larger, use that value as the new Z value to compare against and leave it in.

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28 Mar 2023 01:05 #267655 by nwallace
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I actually found a way to limit the places after the decimal for xyz in my post processor to 3 which should work for this situation. For anyone else using Fusion, the change in the post is below.

Change this:
var xyzFormat = createFormat({decimals:(unit == MM ? 3 : 4), forceDecimal:true});

to this:
var xyzFormat = createFormat({decimals:(unit == MM ? 3 : 3), forceDecimal:true});

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30 Mar 2023 22:25 #267943 by nwallace
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After a little more investigation, I can also say that a small linear axis move of 0.001" can also cause this behavior.

This does not work:

Y0. Z1.300
G93 A178.639 F11.0982
Z1.301 A357.443 F11.0879
Z1.300 A360. F773.4857

This snippet behaves as expected.

Y0. Z1.300
G93 A178.639 F11.0982
A357.443 F11.0879
A360. F773.4857

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09 May 2023 20:06 - 09 May 2023 20:07 #271062 by andypugh
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I believe that this bug is now fixed.

See the bug report at github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2410 for more details.
Last edit: 09 May 2023 20:07 by andypugh.
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