spindle speed not working

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30 Aug 2011 00:35 #12840 by cncbasher
could someone confirm that the spindle speed bar is working fine in 2.5 and git master perhaps ?

i have a value shown in spindle-fb-filtered-abs-rpm , but pyvcp.spindle-speed display shows nothing

so i'm trying to hunt down the culprit

( using default from pncconf )

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30 Aug 2011 07:13 - 30 Aug 2011 07:13 #12846 by cmorley
Not sure how old your 2.5 is. can you post your config files?
I just built a config and see nothing obvious.
I will have to check with hardware later in week.

Chris M
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30 Aug 2011 08:33 - 30 Aug 2011 08:36 #12847 by cncbasher
version i have chris is 2.5.0-pre1-616
also appears to be the same using 2.6 also

hal file produced from pncconf , with no changes
for example the values i have are :

spindle-fb-filtered-abs-rpm 1.186e-321
spindle-fb-filtered-abs-rps 2e-323

i'll post the approprate files in a few mins

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30 Aug 2011 08:38 #12848 by cncbasher
and the custom postgui file

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30 Aug 2011 10:43 #12849 by ArcEye
Replied by ArcEye on topic Re:spindle speed not working
Hi

I can't see why your hal files don't work and don't think it is a EMC version problem.

Underneath the layers of complication from using a Mesa board, the spindle rpm seems to be derived almost exactly the same way as the below code from my setup (except I have no lowpass filter)
I have used this from version 2.3 through to 2.6

net spindle-position encoder.0.position-interpolated => motion.spindle-revs
net spindle-velocity encoder.0.velocity => motion.spindle-speed-in
net spindle-index-enable encoder.0.index-enable <=> motion.spindle-index-enable

net spindle-index parport.0.pin-11-in-not => encoder.0.phase-Z
net spindle-pulse parport.1.pin-10-in => encoder.0.phase-A

setp scale.1.gain 60.0 #convert velocity per sec into rpm
net spindle-velocity => abs.1.in
net absolute-spindle-velocity <= abs.1.out => scale.1.in
net scaled-spindle-velocity <= scale.1.out => pyvcp.spindle-speed


Have you gone right back to the start and looked at what value hm2_7i43.0.encoder.00.velocity is producing?
Does it look like a valid rps value for the speed you are running at?
The hole in my knowledge is where the Mesa board gets its signal from, I just use a simple hall effect indexing switch fed into encoder.0.phase-Z

regards

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30 Aug 2011 11:26 #12851 by cncbasher
input is from 2 optos one gives a single pulse per rev attached to the index pin and the other opto to 100 count per rev attached to the quadrature A pin ,

handled just about the same way as any pin , but i could change it to a general io pin quite easily

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30 Aug 2011 12:39 #12852 by andypugh
cncbasher wrote:

spindle-fb-filtered-abs-rpm 1.186e-321
spindle-fb-filtered-abs-rps 2e-323

Those numbers are both approximately zero.
I suspect that the scale is set wrong.
Using Halmeter, follow the trail all the way from the mesa card encoder.N.velocity onwards.

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30 Aug 2011 12:44 #12853 by andypugh
cncbasher wrote:

input is from 2 optos one gives a single pulse per rev attached to the index pin and the other opto to 100 count per rev attached to the quadrature A pin

Aha!

If you only have one quadrature phase connected you need to set counter-mode to 1 in the HAL file.
# ---Encoder feedback signals/setup---

setp    hm2_7i43.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
setp    hm2_7i43.0.encoder.00.filter 1

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30 Aug 2011 14:41 #12855 by cncbasher
thanks Andy setting counter mode to 1 , got me in the ball park

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30 Aug 2011 22:29 #12863 by cmorley
I'll add that to the docs as that may be a common problem.
Ultimately it should be choose-able on the Mesa page.

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