7i96S mesa_modbus encoder count interference

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26 May 2024 16:35 #301499 by somuchforfree

# spindle load

loadrt spindle-load ports=hm2_7i96s.0.pktuart.0
setp spindle-load.00.address 1
setp spindle-load.00.baudrate 9600
setp spindle-load.00.rxdelay 255
setp spindle-load.00.txdelay 10
addf spindle-load.00 servo-thread

setp spindle-load.00.update-hz 10
loadrt conv_u32_float count=1
addf conv-u32-float.0 servo-thread
net spindle-load-float conv-u32-float.0.in <= spindle-load.00.state


Now that I commented a conv_u32_float back in, it jumps around in the snippet above, but does not when I move the setp right after the loadrt for the conv_u32_float.

That's all the testing I can do for now, let me know if I should try anything else.


This works as in "encoder does not jump", but it also doesn't update the Modbus values... so we're getting there I think.

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26 May 2024 16:53 - 26 May 2024 21:37 #301501 by PCW
Not sure whats going on but I do know there's a bug with setting the update rate

You can set pins with setp:

halcmd: setp hm2_7i96s.0.encoder.sample-frequency 100000
halcmd:

Also is it the actual encoder count pin that is corrupted or something else
further down the chain. Thia may help to recreate the issue
 
Last edit: 26 May 2024 21:37 by PCW.

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27 May 2024 15:26 #301593 by PCW
Can you post your hal/ini files and spindle_load source so
I can try and duplicate the issue?

Does the error occur if there is no connection? (wondering if this
can be tested without your particular VFD)

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30 May 2024 23:25 - 30 May 2024 23:28 #301897 by somuchforfree

Is it possibly just noise related?
that is, what happens if you set:

setp hm2_7i96s.0.encoder.00.filter true
setp hm2_7i96s.0.encoder.sample-frequency 100000


I don't have a .sample-frequency in my parameters, just counter-mode, filter, index-invert, index-mask, index-mask-invert, scale and vel-timeout.


I missed that the sample-frequency is child of encoder, not encoder.00. This is why I couldn't set it with setp.
Unfortunately setting the filter frequency like you suggested did not fix the issue.
Last edit: 30 May 2024 23:28 by somuchforfree. Reason: fix quote

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30 May 2024 23:46 #301900 by somuchforfree
Sorry if that was unclear from my original post, but we do not have a VFD connected, it's an Arduino that takes an analog input from a voltage divider conected to the VFD's analog out. That does not matter for the functionality, just to clear things up.
// spindle-load.mod
#define MAX_MSG_LEN 16   // may be increased if necessary to max 251

static const hm2_modbus_chan_descriptor_t channels[] = {
/*  {TYPE,    FUNC, ADDR,   COUNT, pin_name} */
    {HAL_U32, 4,  0x0000, 1,     "state"},
};
# custom_jogwheel.hal
# set jumpers W1-W3 to left for single ended encoder
setp hm2_7i96s.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
setp hm2_7i96s.0.encoder.00.filter true
setp hm2_7i96s.0.encoder.sample-frequency 100000 # not encoder.00.!
net joint-selected-count <= hm2_7i96s.0.encoder.00.count

The encoder count and count-latched stay at 0, the input-a and input-b are constantly HIGH, rawlatch and rawcounts are stuck at 65535 but the encoder's velocity and velocity-rpm go to negative values like -15 and -850 respectively, as described in earlier posts.

All of this happens even if I do not have the Arduino connected to the Mesa.

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30 May 2024 23:54 - 30 May 2024 23:55 #301903 by somuchforfree
If I move the setp for the update-hz above the loadrt conv_u32_float the Modbus updates at 10 Hz but the encoder count is going crazy.

If I move it below the loadrt, it will read a correct value once at startup but never update. The encoder rawlatch and rawcount are always at 933 or 934 (restarted LinuxCNC 5 times, 5 times 933/934) after the first Modbus read but after this they are stable and only change when I actually turn the jog wheel.
Last edit: 30 May 2024 23:55 by somuchforfree.

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31 May 2024 00:54 - 31 May 2024 00:57 #301909 by PCW
OK I cannot duplicate this (at least with no modbus device) so not sure whats next

Used your spindle-load comp

With this hal support:


loadrt spindle-load ports=hm2_7i96s.0.pktuart.0
setp spindle-load.00.address 1
setp spindle-load.00.baudrate 9600
setp spindle-load.00.rxdelay 255
setp spindle-load.00.txdelay 10
addf spindle-load.00 servo-thread

setp spindle-load.00.update-hz 10
loadrt conv_u32_float count=1
addf conv-u32-float.0 servo-thread
net spindle-load-float conv-u32-float.0.in <= spindle-load.00.state

Here is a halshow view: (encoder velocity 0 when not moving)

 

Here is the encoder behaviour when moved by hand:

 


Note: you cannot use count mode with a quadrature encoder, this is
an up/down counter mode not a 1x quadrature mode and will miss-count
and give wild velocity numbers when fed quadrature.

Better to use the MPG inputs on TB3 if you want 1X quadrature
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