Correct Boards for SCM Record 1 Retrofit

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03 Jul 2018 01:18 #113268 by Littlebadger
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Hello! I am wanting to retrofit a 1993 3 axis SCM Record 1 CNC router with LinuxCNC to replace the existing NUM 720B control.

The three axes are driven by ac servo motors which have Yaskawa CACR SR_BE1 series servo amplifiers which take analogue input and give encoder feedback (6 wires line driver or 3 wires open collector ). The spindle is run by a variable frequency inverter (speed control is analogue).

There are about 44 inputs and 36 outputs going to and from the old NUM 17.20 PLC. I doubt it would be practical to try to interface LinuxCNC with it? The inputs are 24 volt, but the outputs are mostly 120 volt ac so I suppose I would need to get some relays if I am going to replace the plc with an electronic board. The machine has a 7 position rotary automatic tool changer and a 5 spindle drilling block. I am wondering what the appropriate driver boards for this retrofit would be. Thanks, Eric Froese

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03 Jul 2018 12:51 - 03 Jul 2018 12:59 #113316 by Todd Zuercher
Replied by Todd Zuercher on topic Correct Boards for SCM Record 1 Retrofit
I work with an older SCM Routomat with a NUM 1040 control that I have been contemplating retrofitting for a few years now. (It has been one minor controller malfunction away from a brain transplant for a while now.)

I would tackle this with a Mesa 7i77($199) and something to plug it into (5i25,6i25,or7i92 for $89) and how ever many Smart Serial cards it takes to get enough IO. The 7i77 card alone would cover 32 inputs, 16 outputs, the servos/encoders and the spindle. You'd still need 12 more inputs and 20 outs. There are a couple of ways you can get there. You could buy one 7i64 ($198) with 24 in and 24 out. or you could buy a 7i74 ($69)+two 7i84($79 each) for a total of an additional 64 in and 32 outs ($227).

I think you can (I would certainly try to) reuse the old NUM relay boards. (I think they use 24v outputs.)

Scratch that last option, I just remembered if yours like mine you might need a step generator for the tool changer, it would be cheaper to replace one of the 7i84 cards and the 7i74 with a 7i76 ($119) giving you the same number of digital io plus 6 step generators and another analog spindle control.

Total cost would be close to $500. Pretty cheap when you compare with the cost of retrofitting a commercial controller.
7i92($89)+7i77($199)+7i76($119)+7i84($89)=$496 for 6 analog out, 6 encoders, 6 stepgens, 96 inputs and 48 ouputs.
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7i92($89)+7i77($199)+7i64($198)=$486 for 5 analog out, 5 encoders, and 56 inputs and 40 outputs
Last edit: 03 Jul 2018 12:59 by Todd Zuercher.
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04 Jul 2018 04:25 #113377 by Littlebadger
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Thanks for the reply and the idea of using the old relay boards! I’ll have to look into that. My tool changer is turned by a stepper motor, but it appears to be set up to be controlled by inputs and outputs on the PLC... I think I’ll get a 7i76 to be safe tho.

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07 Jul 2018 17:33 #113690 by andypugh
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LinuxCNC includes a software PLC if you find that you need one.
But you can also control a toolchanger with a G-code subroutine or C-code compiled into a HAL component. Or a mixture of any or all of those.
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