Mesa 7i76e Analog Spindle wiring to Servo drive 0-10v
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16 Aug 2018 08:04 - 16 Aug 2018 11:32 #116110
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Hello all,
So i was setting up next thing to my machine, the spindle motor.
I'm using a Kollmorgen 5,7Nm servo motor with a A&B ultra-3000 drive.
The drive is setup in velocity mode, so i can control the rpm by applying 0-10v between two pins.
If i reverse the input between those two pins, the rotation change.
I try to understand how the TB4 outputs from the mesa 7i76e works, but o'm not getting it yet.
I have applyed 5 volts from the drive to pin 3 on the mesa board, and a other pin form the drive to pin 2.
No control or so. the motor just starts to turn.
What do i miss? Or do some have a better way to make this work?
Regards,
Erik
So i was setting up next thing to my machine, the spindle motor.
I'm using a Kollmorgen 5,7Nm servo motor with a A&B ultra-3000 drive.
The drive is setup in velocity mode, so i can control the rpm by applying 0-10v between two pins.
If i reverse the input between those two pins, the rotation change.
I try to understand how the TB4 outputs from the mesa 7i76e works, but o'm not getting it yet.
I have applyed 5 volts from the drive to pin 3 on the mesa board, and a other pin form the drive to pin 2.
No control or so. the motor just starts to turn.
What do i miss? Or do some have a better way to make this work?
Regards,
Erik
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16 Aug 2018 08:21 #116112
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16 Aug 2018 10:19 #116114
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Thank you.
I have looked at these examples.
Unfortunately it didn't work.
What does the mesa board wants? If i understand it correct, the mesa "asks" external 10v to make the signal for the right RPM.
I did it with 5v, but it just starts to turn without giffing the command in linuxcnc.
I have looked at these examples.
Unfortunately it didn't work.
What does the mesa board wants? If i understand it correct, the mesa "asks" external 10v to make the signal for the right RPM.
I did it with 5v, but it just starts to turn without giffing the command in linuxcnc.
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16 Aug 2018 10:41 #116116
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Mesa ist described as digital potentiometer. Have you given all three wires? Have you connected all digital signals? Have you programed your vfd correct?
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16 Aug 2018 11:07 - 16 Aug 2018 11:33 #116124
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Yes i have. Its actually not af vfd...its a servo drive that can be also controlled by 0-10v.
I did connect the 3 wires. Didn't make any change.
Between pin 25 and 26 i have to apply 0-10v. (or 0-5v). If i do that with lets say 1.5v AA battery, it works.
Depends how i connect it, witch way the spindle will turn.
I programmed the servo drive how fast it should be accelerate.
Witch are the digital signals?
I might think i have to connect a common, but witch one?
Attachements are the I/0 connectors and 0-10v connection
I did connect the 3 wires. Didn't make any change.
Between pin 25 and 26 i have to apply 0-10v. (or 0-5v). If i do that with lets say 1.5v AA battery, it works.
Depends how i connect it, witch way the spindle will turn.
I programmed the servo drive how fast it should be accelerate.
Witch are the digital signals?
I might think i have to connect a common, but witch one?
Attachements are the I/0 connectors and 0-10v connection
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16 Aug 2018 11:33 - 16 Aug 2018 11:33 #116126
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To check the 7I76E spindle output I would:
1. Connect +5V to spindle+ (TB4 pin 3)
2. Connect 5V common/gnd to spindle- (TB4 pin 1 = bottom pin of TB4)
3. Measure voltage from spindle- to spindle out (TB4 pin 2) this should be very close to 0 when LinuxCNC is not running or spindle is not enabled or spindle speed is 0
4. If you have a pncconf created hal file you should be able to set the output voltage via MDI M3 M4 commands
Also you should wire the spindle enable to make sure the spindle is disabled
when not specifically enabled by LinuxCNC
1. Connect +5V to spindle+ (TB4 pin 3)
2. Connect 5V common/gnd to spindle- (TB4 pin 1 = bottom pin of TB4)
3. Measure voltage from spindle- to spindle out (TB4 pin 2) this should be very close to 0 when LinuxCNC is not running or spindle is not enabled or spindle speed is 0
4. If you have a pncconf created hal file you should be able to set the output voltage via MDI M3 M4 commands
Also you should wire the spindle enable to make sure the spindle is disabled
when not specifically enabled by LinuxCNC
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16 Aug 2018 12:53 #116135
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Thank you.
I will gif it a nother try this evening.
I will gif it a nother try this evening.
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16 Aug 2018 17:40 #116179
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Is there a chance that i have to set up the spindle control pins in the hal file?
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17 Aug 2018 07:19 #116193
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Yes indeed it worked.
I search for a common pin on the driver, and that did it.
Only thing is i have to adjust the right rpm.
How do i do that the right way? I tried to adjust the scale, but aint getting there.
I search for a common pin on the driver, and that did it.
Only thing is i have to adjust the right rpm.
How do i do that the right way? I tried to adjust the scale, but aint getting there.
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17 Aug 2018 16:57 #116206
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Typically you adjust the analog scale and limits to the drives RPM at full scale voltage, so if you drive spins at 4500 RPM at 5V (and you have 5V between TB4 pins 3 and 1) you would set the scale and positive limit to 4500
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