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22 Nov 2021 21:13 #227326 by saeed_niknami
Hello friend 
i have a question about mesa card 
can mesa card closed loop axis with pwm like we have 3 axis and a spindle  mesa card output +/- 10 volt for all axis and spindle and get feed back from drives encoder or axis mounted encoders and make them full close loop for all axes . 
if can please give me model of mesa card that can do above opration 
By the way spindle is servo spindle has drive and built in encoder
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22 Nov 2021 22:23 #227331 by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Closed loop question
Yes, a Mesa analog servo interface like a 7I77+7I92M or 7I97
can output +-10V for analog servos and accept encoder signals
allowing LinuxCNC to close the position control loop.

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22 Nov 2021 22:49 #227333 by saeed_niknami
Replied by saeed_niknami on topic Closed loop question
Sir what is the difference of mesa card close loop with commercial cnc close loop like fanuc haidenhien seimens is there any difference


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23 Nov 2021 00:12 #227348 by andypugh
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They are very similar, With one being much cheaper.
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23 Nov 2021 12:57 #227400 by saeed_niknami
Replied by saeed_niknami on topic Closed loop question
sir another question
in your opinion which is best for industrial servo driver like delta eston that work with both pulse/dir and analog +/-10
i want to purchase mesa card but i can not make a decision and choose between 7i97 or 7i76..
i want to know mesa close loop is best with step dir or analog pwm.
please help me on this i have three feed axis motor drive with (step/dir or pwm ) and one spindle with pwm .

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23 Nov 2021 13:08 #227401 by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Closed loop question

in your opinion which is best for industrial servo driver like delta eston that work with both pulse/dir and analog +/-10

To make the decision harder, have you considered a digital control scheme such as EtherCAT? 

I have no experience with it, but I am running some STMBL servo droves that use Mesa smart-serial. (But i can't currently recommend the STMBL boards as they are basically unavailable at this time) 

Otherwise, my choice would be governed by which drives I can get at the best price rather than the interface method. 
 

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23 Nov 2021 13:13 #227402 by saeed_niknami
Replied by saeed_niknami on topic Closed loop question
sir i have drives and servo motors all work with both step/dir or pwm very well
my problem is with mesa card . if it does very well on step / dir closed loop i choose 7i76 or if mesa does very well in pwm i will choose 7i97
beside that my spindle only accept pwm +/-10v

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23 Nov 2021 22:56 #227443 by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Closed loop question
pwm +/-10V would be very unusual. You would generally use one _or_ the other.

(This is not to say that a +/- 10V PWM signal isn't possible, but it isn't a control scheme that I have seen)

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