Emco PC Turn 55 spindle control

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14 Jul 2023 17:28 - 14 Jul 2023 17:31 #275423 by Murphy
Anyone have any idea what sort of spindle control is this and can it be hooked up to Linuxcnc? Would I be better off buying a VFD? There is no PWM or 0-10v input.  Motor is .35kw 3 phase. 
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17 Jul 2023 16:38 #275660 by spumco
That looks to my untrained eye like a differential step/direction control.

I think "CLK" means 'clock'
"E" might be enable

Maybe Emco decided that a step/dir spindle control was preferred over analog for some reason.  Wouldn't be the strangest thing they ever did.

My Emco 325-II has a Lenze VFD and is controlled by an analog signal - but that's a rather different lathe than your 55.

However, on my diagram "md current" is identified as the analog-out (i.e. analog reference voltage) from the VFD to the Emco board.

Any pics or specs for the drive itself?

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17 Jul 2023 17:01 #275661 by Murphy
Not at the moment but I'm in the middle of doing up a quick differential circuit. Clk MD is the PDM input(I think) enable is 5v, dir=direction, NI is index,

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17 Jul 2023 17:06 - 17 Jul 2023 18:19 #275662 by spumco
Forget everything I wrote earlier - it's an analog control.

Found the manual, have a look at page 8 - the Y4A400 000 connections are described better.

The "DIR/CK" connections I mentioned earlier are the encoder feedback TO the drive board.

E is enable (on/off)
N+/N- is the analog speed input TO the drive
IA is the reference voltage
SR is the 'servo-ready' signal - likely an alarm signal.

EDIT - I think, anyway.  Maybe someone else can help, but I suspect if you test IA to ground with the drive powered you should see the reference voltage.
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17 Jul 2023 19:09 - 17 Jul 2023 19:13 #275670 by Murphy
So n+ and n- are the PDM? IA is 10v ? I found a post on another forum attached below. This is for PC mill but should be the same .
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17 Jul 2023 22:57 #275692 by spumco
I'm confused now too - sorry if I muddied the waters.

I think your best bet is to keep searching for a definative answer from someone who has the same lathe with the same drive.  Looks like there were a few versions used over the years - a Lenze VFD and a proprietary Emco spindle drive (yours, I think).

And some similar models used a DC spindle.

Here's a post discussing a retrofit:

forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/41345...-pc-turn-55-retrofit

Maybe that helps?

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18 Jul 2023 07:31 #275720 by Murphy
I'm going to try and find an electrical diagram manual for the mill 50 and cross reference page 8 . They may be wired different

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18 Jul 2023 19:40 #275757 by Murphy
There is no reference to the pin names on the PC 50 mill electrical manual. I don't want to blindly hook up wires if I'm not sure. My controller outputs 0-10v and I don't know if the emco speed input takes up to 10v , it could blow it

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18 Jul 2023 20:07 #275762 by spumco
Maybe punt and get a small VFD?  You'd be saving a step/dir output if that's any consolation, and can sell the Emco drive to someone who hasn't done a conversion.

I did find the PC Turn 50 electrical manual, but it's identical to your 55 version.
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