DIY Bob with digital couplers rather than optocouplers

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05 Aug 2023 09:32 #276980 by stefan63
During my search for a suitable high speed coupler for a diy BOB if found some high speed digital couplers that ar working with magnetic or captive coupling for galvanic protection. Do we have anyone in this forum that hav been experimenting with those?
Some example part numbers below.
ADUM3151ARSZ-RL7     (Magnetic)  General Purpose Digital Isolator 2500Vrms 4 Channel 2Mbps 25kV/µs 
TJF1052IT/5Y   (Captive)  CAN Digital Isolator 5000Vrms 2 Channel 2Mbps 20kV/µs 

Kind regards/Stefan 
 

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05 Aug 2023 10:05 #276984 by tommylight
Very fast optocouplers exist but cost a bit more than slow ones, hence not used on cheap BOB's.
Been quite a while since i used those so can not recall the type and numbers, sorry.
Probably searching Mouser or the likes can narrow it down based on ton/toff.

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05 Aug 2023 12:05 #276997 by Aciera
Are you interested in them for use in a diy BOB instead of optocouplers or for their designed use for SPI and CAN bus isolation respectively?
Note that the first offers only 4 highspeed channels out of 7 with the other 3 being low speed data channels while the second is used for a two wire differential signal.

So I agree with Tommy,I don't see how either would be useful for general pupose IO signals or how you would get any benefit over using a 'regular' high speed optocoupler which are easily available up to 20 or even more Mbs.
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05 Aug 2023 15:12 #277010 by jmelson
Note that some of these magnetic couplers cannot pass DC, which is the situation with a step or direction signal. They don't cange very fast when the machine is not moving that axis.
Jon

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05 Aug 2023 15:17 #277011 by jmelson
Some fast optos I have used for fast PWM signals are :
HCPL-0201-500E fast, 20 V, SMT Digi-Key part # 516-1704-5
This one can handle up to a 20 v DC supply on the output.
HCPL-063L-500E fast, 3.3V SMT
And, this one is good at 3.3 and 5 V supply on the receiver side.
Jon
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05 Aug 2023 15:25 - 05 Aug 2023 15:29 #277012 by PCW
We have used these for years for things like serial links.

The TI ones are quite reasonable, for example:

ISO7740DWR:

4 channels
100 mbits/sec
5000V RMS isolation
2.25 to 5V operation

About $2.00 in low quantities
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