Controlling existing motors with resolvers
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26 Jul 2025 21:03 #332379
by jmelson
Replied by jmelson on topic Controlling existing motors with resolvers
Nope, Variable Reluctance resolvers require quite a bit more excitation drive, and not all resolver circuits can handle these. Tamagawa is a leading manufacturer of these, but they also make "brushless resolvers" which require MUCH less drive. In the data sheets, they sometimes state the excitation impedance as a complex number, something like 95 + 135j Ohms at some frequency. The higher these numbers, the less drive current the resolver requires. Common brands of brushless resolvers seen on older equipment are Singer-Kearfott and Harowe Controls.
Sin/Cos encoders are not magnetic devices, but often optical linear scales (can also be rotary) where the raw optical signal is brought out, either as a voltage or a current. The reason for this is interpolator boxes can be attached to increase the encoder resolution. Back in the "old days" linear scales often had native resolution of 100 lines per inch or so, so interpolation was required to get proper machine accuracy. Nowadays, high-resolution optical gratings can be made easily, so this stuff is rarely seen today.
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Sin/Cos encoders are not magnetic devices, but often optical linear scales (can also be rotary) where the raw optical signal is brought out, either as a voltage or a current. The reason for this is interpolator boxes can be attached to increase the encoder resolution. Back in the "old days" linear scales often had native resolution of 100 lines per inch or so, so interpolation was required to get proper machine accuracy. Nowadays, high-resolution optical gratings can be made easily, so this stuff is rarely seen today.
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27 Jul 2025 17:13 #332434
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I think that Granite Devices drives handle resolvers, but the current drive (IONI) only handles 700W. (you need at least twice that)
The older "Argon" drive might fit the bill, though it's a bit down on power compared to the existing drives.
granitedevices.com/oldsite/digital-servo-drive-argon
Lists the following feedback sources:
Incremental encoder
• Analog Sin/Cos encoder
• Resolver/synchro
• Serial SSI & BiSS (upcoming feature)
• Tachogenerator
• Hall sensors
What is the feedback system used for axis position? Are there separate scales, or does that rely on the resolvers on the motors too?
STMBL would work, but doesn't fit your "industrial" and "don't want to build it myself" criteria. (though see the thread about a new STMBL on this forum.)
The older "Argon" drive might fit the bill, though it's a bit down on power compared to the existing drives.
granitedevices.com/oldsite/digital-servo-drive-argon
Lists the following feedback sources:
Incremental encoder
• Analog Sin/Cos encoder
• Resolver/synchro
• Serial SSI & BiSS (upcoming feature)
• Tachogenerator
• Hall sensors
What is the feedback system used for axis position? Are there separate scales, or does that rely on the resolvers on the motors too?
STMBL would work, but doesn't fit your "industrial" and "don't want to build it myself" criteria. (though see the thread about a new STMBL on this forum.)
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28 Jul 2025 01:01 #332453
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Replied by nanowhat on topic Controlling existing motors with resolvers
There aren't any other position sensors, so the motor resolvers must serve both commutation and position feedback.What is the feedback system used for axis position? Are there separate scales, or does that rely on the resolvers on the motors too?
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