Hardinge Superslant retrofit
23 Oct 2009 18:54 #1025
by robh
Hardinge Superslant retrofit was created by robh
thought id share some early on shots of our retrofit on a Hardinge Superslant Twin turret
this is a 3axis lathe with XZ top turret,
then just a Z turret on the bottom for drilling and bar stopping etc.
(4axis and 5axis(power tooled) versions where made)
machine uses C16 collets, bigger version of the C5.
machine has a 4.5M Multi tube Hydraulic bar feed.
Old control was Fanuc 6T which died needing a hefty repair bill so retrofit time it was.
here are some Pics from early on.
Machine its self.
The Two Turrets
Control Cabinet,
3x Axis Drives, DC Spindle Drive at the far end
relays and fuses at left end.
PC Board fitted, and IOs started to be linked in to the mesa cards
will find a photo of there grate big mount of cables and I/O Cards
all the I/Os in on the bottom of the cabinet
More pics to come soon, maybe even a video
thank, rob
this is a 3axis lathe with XZ top turret,
then just a Z turret on the bottom for drilling and bar stopping etc.
(4axis and 5axis(power tooled) versions where made)
machine uses C16 collets, bigger version of the C5.
machine has a 4.5M Multi tube Hydraulic bar feed.
Old control was Fanuc 6T which died needing a hefty repair bill so retrofit time it was.
here are some Pics from early on.
Machine its self.
The Two Turrets
Control Cabinet,
3x Axis Drives, DC Spindle Drive at the far end
relays and fuses at left end.
PC Board fitted, and IOs started to be linked in to the mesa cards
will find a photo of there grate big mount of cables and I/O Cards
all the I/Os in on the bottom of the cabinet
More pics to come soon, maybe even a video
thank, rob
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09 Dec 2009 19:36 #1278
by robh
Replied by robh on topic Re:Hardinge Superslant retrofit
Here are some quick videos of the machine up and running
theres still plenty to be done and finished
first video some CSS and feed/rev turning down 42mm bar
this video shows turning down some 2mm bar and threading also
putting a whitworth thread on.
theres still plenty to be done and finished
first video some CSS and feed/rev turning down 42mm bar
this video shows turning down some 2mm bar and threading also
putting a whitworth thread on.
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09 Dec 2009 22:49 - 09 Dec 2009 22:50 #1284
by Kirk_Wallace
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Congratulations robh. Job well done.
Your success makes me lust for this one:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260519370200
which is pretty close to me. I just can't find a place to keep it out of the rain, shucks.
Your success makes me lust for this one:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260519370200
which is pretty close to me. I just can't find a place to keep it out of the rain, shucks.
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17 Dec 2009 18:44 #1327
by robh
Replied by robh on topic Re:Hardinge Superslant retrofit
Hi Kirk
thanks, it took around 2 or so weeks to convert it, most of time spent sorting out cables and connectors and also sorting out screws giving them a service etc.
some day i hope to take the DC motors of and fit some AC motors onto it, and lift up the rapid speed from 5M/Min to 7M/Min or 10M/Min
but keeping tools close to work area and good bit of program tweaking you can soon eat through a bar of metal in its current state
i must put some newer videos up of the machine in action now iv got the drive tweaked a bit more on response
now i just have the 2nd superslant to convert now, that one im looking to add power tooling to it as they where made with power tooling
as well as extra X axis on the bottom turret not just the extra Z, but you don't see many of them around.
that CINCINNATI looked like ti would be a nice convert little pricey through for a dead machine.
rob
thanks, it took around 2 or so weeks to convert it, most of time spent sorting out cables and connectors and also sorting out screws giving them a service etc.
some day i hope to take the DC motors of and fit some AC motors onto it, and lift up the rapid speed from 5M/Min to 7M/Min or 10M/Min
but keeping tools close to work area and good bit of program tweaking you can soon eat through a bar of metal in its current state
i must put some newer videos up of the machine in action now iv got the drive tweaked a bit more on response
now i just have the 2nd superslant to convert now, that one im looking to add power tooling to it as they where made with power tooling
as well as extra X axis on the bottom turret not just the extra Z, but you don't see many of them around.
that CINCINNATI looked like ti would be a nice convert little pricey through for a dead machine.
rob
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15 Feb 2010 22:25 #1918
by robh
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Here is a quick new video of the Superslant doing some internal boring and threading.
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15 Feb 2010 23:24 #1919
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You earned an "Ata Boy", good job. Robert.
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22 Feb 2011 00:36 #7363
by robh
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Just finished adding a new video i took today on the 2nd Superslant i just finished.
this one got its old brushed DC motors dumped for some new AC servos and speed uprated
this one got its old brushed DC motors dumped for some new AC servos and speed uprated
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22 Feb 2011 11:46 #7373
by BigJohnT
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Nice video Rob!
Next you need to fit up a bore cam so we can watch from the inside
John
Next you need to fit up a bore cam so we can watch from the inside
John
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10 Oct 2012 16:31 #25214
by munchkin82677
Replied by munchkin82677 on topic Re:Hardinge Superslant retrofit
I happened to find my way to this forum because of the same reasons you had with your old superslant (my first post HI VERY ONE!) .... Really getting tired of fighting with the old siemens drives and I believe it has now developed a problem on the Fanuc side. I have about a million questions I could ask but I believe i will keep this simple till I get the time to ingest this whole forum. My biggest question is what kind of a back gound in electronics did you have? This project looks intimidating at a first glance. I'm mostly concerned with getting things like the tool changer to work and such. I'm not familiar with ladder logic ect ... For a newbie to attempt this project is it a good Idea? The machine I want to convert needs to be done in 4 weeks at longest. Is this crazy for a newbie to attempt in such short order?
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10 Oct 2012 18:41 #25217
by robh
Replied by robh on topic Re:Hardinge Superslant retrofit
hi there
Hardinge where very nice to us when they made the superslant as if like me you will have a full copy of all the circuit drawings for the machine with alot of good information on them which will help and speed up process rapidly
id ask, do you have the twin turret one like mine? 3axis or one with 4 axes (X and Z top and bottom)
if 4 any power tooling?
just wondering how complex yours would become?
also do you want to be able to use both turrets at the same time to machine parts? ie turn an OD and drill a hole?
on the old motors i still have one running on the old DCs ... as u say on there last legs but still do work, i put new bearings in the end of the motor where brush's fit this helped them along abit more... i find the brush housing are worn now which makes all the problems
what drives/motors are u replacing them with? as on X u are limited on space big time alot of motors out there u will not fit in.. plus if your changing the motors there abit of modding todo like i did unless u get lucky someone has something you can bolt right on.
if you find your want onto the IRC chat channel you can always find me and plenty of others willing to help etc.. my name on IRC is
rob_h
rob
Hardinge where very nice to us when they made the superslant as if like me you will have a full copy of all the circuit drawings for the machine with alot of good information on them which will help and speed up process rapidly
id ask, do you have the twin turret one like mine? 3axis or one with 4 axes (X and Z top and bottom)
if 4 any power tooling?
just wondering how complex yours would become?
also do you want to be able to use both turrets at the same time to machine parts? ie turn an OD and drill a hole?
on the old motors i still have one running on the old DCs ... as u say on there last legs but still do work, i put new bearings in the end of the motor where brush's fit this helped them along abit more... i find the brush housing are worn now which makes all the problems
what drives/motors are u replacing them with? as on X u are limited on space big time alot of motors out there u will not fit in.. plus if your changing the motors there abit of modding todo like i did unless u get lucky someone has something you can bolt right on.
if you find your want onto the IRC chat channel you can always find me and plenty of others willing to help etc.. my name on IRC is
rob_h
rob
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