Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
20 Mar 2013 03:31 #31616
by prashant
Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help was created by prashant
Hey Guys!
I am new to this forum.
I have being using a fanuc robodrill (16m Controller) for past 3 years. Recently there was a problem with the display, which could not be solved by our local engineers. Fanuc is asking around 5500$ for the display and keypad unit. (Without Warranty). Apprantly because the machine has been handle by local engineers.
My Question is
1) Is it possible to use linux cnc as a controller, keeping the orignal fanuc servos, drives and power supply.
2) If yes, can it be done by a person with mechnical background. ( very litil knowledge about electronics)
(I do have a friend from electronics background, whom i can cunsult here in India.)
Please Help
Prashant
India
I am new to this forum.
I have being using a fanuc robodrill (16m Controller) for past 3 years. Recently there was a problem with the display, which could not be solved by our local engineers. Fanuc is asking around 5500$ for the display and keypad unit. (Without Warranty). Apprantly because the machine has been handle by local engineers.
My Question is
1) Is it possible to use linux cnc as a controller, keeping the orignal fanuc servos, drives and power supply.
2) If yes, can it be done by a person with mechnical background. ( very litil knowledge about electronics)
(I do have a friend from electronics background, whom i can cunsult here in India.)
Please Help
Prashant
India
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20 Mar 2013 06:57 #31625
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
what date was the machine made?
Do you have any specifications or part number of the drives?
Do you have any specifications or part number of the drives?
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20 Mar 2013 07:34 #31627
by jaredts
Replied by jaredts on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
Fanuc parts can be purchased other places than Fanuc. Check out Fanucworld.com. Shipping to India might be high, though. Nothing against Linuxcnc, but I would hate to throw out a Fanuc controller for LinuxCNC (unless it was an older model).
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20 Mar 2013 21:44 #31639
by prashant
Replied by prashant on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
The machine was made in 1996.
Servo Amplifier module No.A06B-6080-H307#EM
I am attaching JPEG files of the drive and motors. Please let me know if any other Information is required.
Thank you.
Servo Amplifier module No.A06B-6080-H307#EM
I am attaching JPEG files of the drive and motors. Please let me know if any other Information is required.
Thank you.
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20 Mar 2013 22:34 #31640
by prashant
Replied by prashant on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
Hi jaredts,
I understand your concern. My machine broke down on April 2012. I have been trying for almost a year now to acquire the part A16B-3300-0033. I had sent an inquiry along with the photograph of the part, on 21 Aug 2012 to fanucworld.com. got no reply.
Now after 1 year, i am not sure whether my system is OK, because it has gone through, around 4to 5 repairing guys. God knows what (experiments) they must have done with it.
Fanuc is not giving warranty cos the machine is being handled by third party. They are asking me to make the 100% payment of 4560$ first.
Lets say if they fit the display and keypad.(after i Pay) and still there is an error. It will be very easy for them to pull their hands out of the entire situation.
Reason i am inclined towards Linux is that, at least i will learn some thing in the process and wont have to depend on commercial minded people for my machine shop.
Your views are welcome. Thank you
I understand your concern. My machine broke down on April 2012. I have been trying for almost a year now to acquire the part A16B-3300-0033. I had sent an inquiry along with the photograph of the part, on 21 Aug 2012 to fanucworld.com. got no reply.
Now after 1 year, i am not sure whether my system is OK, because it has gone through, around 4to 5 repairing guys. God knows what (experiments) they must have done with it.
Fanuc is not giving warranty cos the machine is being handled by third party. They are asking me to make the 100% payment of 4560$ first.
Lets say if they fit the display and keypad.(after i Pay) and still there is an error. It will be very easy for them to pull their hands out of the entire situation.
Reason i am inclined towards Linux is that, at least i will learn some thing in the process and wont have to depend on commercial minded people for my machine shop.
Your views are welcome. Thank you
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20 Mar 2013 22:46 #31641
by prashant
Replied by prashant on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
Hey jaredts,
I forgot to mention that i had bought the machine in 15000$ and have spent around 1500$ to change X and Y axis LM Guide ways. Mechanically the machine is in good condition.
I forgot to mention that i had bought the machine in 15000$ and have spent around 1500$ to change X and Y axis LM Guide ways. Mechanically the machine is in good condition.
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20 Mar 2013 23:42 #31642
by Todd Zuercher
Replied by Todd Zuercher on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
Generally Fanuc is very good about returns and exchanges. When we were chasing an unknown intermittent problem on an old 11M control. They sent us and accepted return of several parts including an entire main board. We had to pay for the part up front, they sent it to us, we stuck it in, didn't affect our problem, pulled it out and sent it back, and they refunded it's cost less shipping and handling charges.
Now if you stick in the new one and it goes poof, your stuck with it (or at least its rebuilding costs).
Now if you stick in the new one and it goes poof, your stuck with it (or at least its rebuilding costs).
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20 Mar 2013 23:59 #31643
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
Unfortunately I think it would be an expensive retrofit since your servo drives
have a Fanuc proprietary digital interface. A fair bit is known about the interface
(theres a thread on it in this forum: search for "fanuc servo drive integration" )
The interface looks like it could be done easily on a low cost FPGA card but there
is simply no specific protocol/timing information available (at least that I could find),
only general pinout information from Fanuc controller manuals, which is insufficient
to recreate the controller side logic.
have a Fanuc proprietary digital interface. A fair bit is known about the interface
(theres a thread on it in this forum: search for "fanuc servo drive integration" )
The interface looks like it could be done easily on a low cost FPGA card but there
is simply no specific protocol/timing information available (at least that I could find),
only general pinout information from Fanuc controller manuals, which is insufficient
to recreate the controller side logic.
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21 Mar 2013 02:32 - 21 Mar 2013 02:32 #31647
by andypugh
One change since that thread, there is now a HAL interface for the Mesa UART.
I am not sure how it copes with 77 bits of data though.
Replied by andypugh on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
Unfortunately I think it would be an expensive retrofit since your servo drives
have a Fanuc proprietary digital interface. A fair bit is known about the interface
(theres a thread on it in this forum: search for "fanuc servo drive integration" ).
One change since that thread, there is now a HAL interface for the Mesa UART.
I am not sure how it copes with 77 bits of data though.
Last edit: 21 Mar 2013 02:32 by andypugh.
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21 Mar 2013 03:53 #31648
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Fanuc Robodrill AlphaT10C -- Retrofit -- Help
I dont think a standard UART will help. If it was just the encoder data that would not be a
big problem but I think the drive interface serial data includes position data
and motor current data and i have no idea of the format, data rate, checksums etc
big problem but I think the drive interface serial data includes position data
and motor current data and i have no idea of the format, data rate, checksums etc
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