Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
15 Apr 2016 06:53 #73334
by rirazvan
Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing? was created by rirazvan
Hi everyone,
The task is to upgrade a Mazak VQC 15-40 to LinuxCNC and I did get to a interesting problem.
The machine use MR-S amplifiers witch seems not to have any analog input. It only has has a BUS-LINK and a hex rotary switch to select the bus address.
Is three a way of interfacing this amplifier with LInuxCNC?
Thank You,
Razvan
The task is to upgrade a Mazak VQC 15-40 to LinuxCNC and I did get to a interesting problem.
The machine use MR-S amplifiers witch seems not to have any analog input. It only has has a BUS-LINK and a hex rotary switch to select the bus address.
Is three a way of interfacing this amplifier with LInuxCNC?
Thank You,
Razvan
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15 Apr 2016 08:18 - 15 Apr 2016 08:28 #73336
by cncbasher
Replied by cncbasher on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
without obtaining the manual or finding more information, regarding the amps , it would be a needle in a haystack
lets see if anyone knows more , although with some information it would probably be a requirement to write a driver
does this link match the servos , as it does seem to have analog capability at first look
cncmanual.com/mazak-mrs-mrs1-troubleshooting-guide/
lets see if anyone knows more , although with some information it would probably be a requirement to write a driver
does this link match the servos , as it does seem to have analog capability at first look
cncmanual.com/mazak-mrs-mrs1-troubleshooting-guide/
Last edit: 15 Apr 2016 08:28 by cncbasher.
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15 Apr 2016 08:35 #73337
by rirazvan
Replied by rirazvan on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
Hello,
I have MR-S manual , unfortunately there is nothing written in the manual regarding the protocol there.
Razvan
I have MR-S manual , unfortunately there is nothing written in the manual regarding the protocol there.
Razvan
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15 Apr 2016 12:07 #73342
by rirazvan
Replied by rirazvan on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
J7-pin 6 AN: Analog input terminal (used only for testing).
I will test it to see if it moves . As far as I remember it does require the initialization from NC to start.
Razvan
I will test it to see if it moves . As far as I remember it does require the initialization from NC to start.
Razvan
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15 Apr 2016 12:22 #73343
by rirazvan
Replied by rirazvan on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
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15 Apr 2016 16:54 #73351
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
Ha, that's a whole 8085/8086 like bus with differential signalling
probably possible to interface if you had a technical manual (with register map etc)
whether its worth the effort is debatable
probably possible to interface if you had a technical manual (with register map etc)
whether its worth the effort is debatable
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15 Apr 2016 17:22 #73353
by rirazvan
Replied by rirazvan on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
I have two options it seems.
Use the Argon driver with the actual HC83S permanent magnet AC motors if they tune normaly or change the motors and the drivers with MR-J2S series , 750W type servo/amplifier pair.
The MR-J2S, 750W motors have the same flange and are half in length.
I have both options in the workshop , I am unhapy trowing away three pairs of MR-S 1kW motor/amplifier that are dual closed loop with addon card for 5 micron resolution. Both motors and ballscrews have 5000ppr encoders .
Use the Argon driver with the actual HC83S permanent magnet AC motors if they tune normaly or change the motors and the drivers with MR-J2S series , 750W type servo/amplifier pair.
The MR-J2S, 750W motors have the same flange and are half in length.
I have both options in the workshop , I am unhapy trowing away three pairs of MR-S 1kW motor/amplifier that are dual closed loop with addon card for 5 micron resolution. Both motors and ballscrews have 5000ppr encoders .
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15 Apr 2016 19:16 #73360
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
I guess is depends on how soon you want the system working
how much you enjoy hardware hacking (technical manuals would make a big difference here)
and how much your time is worth
how much you enjoy hardware hacking (technical manuals would make a big difference here)
and how much your time is worth
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16 Apr 2016 07:18 - 16 Apr 2016 07:34 #73393
by rirazvan
Replied by rirazvan on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
Hello,
cncmanual.com/mitsubishi-cnc-meldas-ac-s...-maintenance-manual/
cncmanual.com/mitsubishi-cnc-meldas-ac-s...-maintenance-manual/
This is the only manual that I found for Meldas MR-S.
Razvan
cncmanual.com/mitsubishi-cnc-meldas-ac-s...-maintenance-manual/
cncmanual.com/mitsubishi-cnc-meldas-ac-s...-maintenance-manual/
This is the only manual that I found for Meldas MR-S.
Razvan
Last edit: 16 Apr 2016 07:34 by rirazvan.
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15 May 2017 17:23 #93228
by jackschmack
Replied by jackschmack on topic Mazak VQC, MR-S amplifiers LinuxCnc interfacing?
I just aquired a tool with the MR-S servo amps, It appears there isn't hope for using these amplifiers? What have others done to drive good (HA80c-s) servos? Will I need to swap out the spindle drive (Freqrol FR-SF) too?
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