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Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
14 Sep 2022 19:25 #251927
by lrak
I was thinking about balancing a lathe chuck and ran into this:
Which reminded me of the programs on cellphones for doing vibration testing..
Which led to this:
www.memsic.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile...PS-048-0072v1.2).pdf
The chip for these runs less than a dollar. I'm thinking one could find a way to make a standalone one for LinuxCNC - seems like many would buy one for balancing/tool breakage - chatter detection (could vary speed if vibration is detected.)
These use a SPI or I2C interface.
I did a couple of quick searches here - didn't see where anyone else went down the same rabbit hole?
Which reminded me of the programs on cellphones for doing vibration testing..
Which led to this:
www.memsic.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile...PS-048-0072v1.2).pdf
The chip for these runs less than a dollar. I'm thinking one could find a way to make a standalone one for LinuxCNC - seems like many would buy one for balancing/tool breakage - chatter detection (could vary speed if vibration is detected.)
These use a SPI or I2C interface.
I did a couple of quick searches here - didn't see where anyone else went down the same rabbit hole?
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14 Sep 2022 23:45 #251956
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
I keep meaning to implement this for LinuxCNC.
Which is very easy to do in HAL with existing components. The question is whether it should be built-in?
Which is very easy to do in HAL with existing components. The question is whether it should be built-in?
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15 Sep 2022 01:13 #251962
by cmorley
Replied by cmorley on topic Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
I had already done it at one time other then it was turned on and off with HAL pjns as I didnt know how to do m code stuff.
It would be on the maillist somewhere..
It would be on the maillist somewhere..
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15 Sep 2022 01:46 #251964
by andypugh
So far I have just twiddled the FO MPG. Which works, too,
Replied by andypugh on topic Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
Indeed, just needs a siggen in HAL. As i said, the question is whether we build it in, or create a specfic HAL component.I had already done it at one time other then it was turned on and off with HAL pjns as I didnt know how to do m code stuff.
It would be on the maillist somewhere.I
So far I have just twiddled the FO MPG. Which works, too,
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15 Sep 2022 01:53 #251966
by cmorley
Replied by cmorley on topic Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
That's what I meant - I did build it into motion. I just didn't code a NML message to turn it on.
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15 Sep 2022 15:59 #252009
by arvidb
Great video link too - thanks!
Replied by arvidb on topic Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
Vibration monitoring would certainly be a nice feature. Since the chip you found has a max sample rate of 2 kHz it should be possible to get one sample per servo period. I haven't looked into it but the Mesa cards should be able to communicate via SPI (at least in theory; I haven't looked into actual support).I was thinking about balancing a lathe chuck and ran into this /.../
Great video link too - thanks!
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15 Sep 2022 19:35 - 15 Sep 2022 19:42 #252034
by jpg
Replied by jpg on topic Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
good evening, some examples on dynamic balancing always around the ADXL335/345:
www.instructables.com/Simple-Rotor-Balancing-Machine/
www.instructables.com/Simple-Rotor-Balancing-Machine/
Last edit: 15 Sep 2022 19:42 by jpg.
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09 Oct 2022 19:58 #253822
by Bari
Replied by Bari on topic Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
I vote for a HAL component vs built in. Keep things as flexible as possible.
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10 Oct 2022 02:16 #253843
by cmorley
Replied by cmorley on topic Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection
The problem of maximum flexibility is it is also the hardest to configure/.
By being built in, it would also standardize the g/m codes to use it.
I did find my code on a old disk drive. I'll have to dust it off and look at the code to see if it's worth moving forward with presenting to anyone.
By being built in, it would also standardize the g/m codes to use it.
I did find my code on a old disk drive. I'll have to dust it off and look at the code to see if it's worth moving forward with presenting to anyone.
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