Inexpensive Accelerometer balancing, tool breakage, chatter detection

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14 Sep 2022 19:25 #251927 by lrak
I was thinking about balancing a lathe chuck and ran into this:


Which reminded me of the programs on cellphones for doing vibration testing..

Which led to this:

www.memsic.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile...PS-048-0072v1.2).pdf

The chip for these runs less than a dollar. I'm thinking one could find a way to make a standalone one for LinuxCNC - seems like many would buy one for balancing/tool breakage - chatter detection (could vary speed if vibration is detected.)

These use a SPI or I2C interface. 

I did a couple of quick searches here - didn't see where anyone else went down the same rabbit hole?
 
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14 Sep 2022 23:45 #251956 by andypugh
I keep meaning to implement this for LinuxCNC.



Which is very easy to do in HAL with existing components. The question is whether it should be built-in?

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15 Sep 2022 01:13 #251962 by cmorley
I had already done it at one time other then it was turned on and off with HAL pjns as I didnt know how to do m code stuff.
It would be on the maillist somewhere..

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15 Sep 2022 01:46 #251964 by andypugh

I had already done it at one time other then it was turned on and off with HAL pjns as I didnt know how to do m code stuff.
It would be on the maillist somewhere.I

Indeed, just needs a siggen in HAL. As i said, the question is whether we build it in, or create a specfic HAL component.

So far I have just twiddled the FO MPG. Which works, too,
 

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15 Sep 2022 01:53 #251966 by cmorley
That's what I meant - I did build it into motion. I just didn't code a NML message to turn it on.

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15 Sep 2022 15:59 #252009 by arvidb

I was thinking about balancing a lathe chuck and ran into this /.../

Vibration monitoring would certainly be a nice feature. Since the chip you found has a max sample rate of 2 kHz it should be possible to get one sample per servo period. I haven't looked into it but the Mesa cards should be able to communicate via SPI (at least in theory; I haven't looked into actual support).

Great video link too - thanks!

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15 Sep 2022 19:35 - 15 Sep 2022 19:42 #252034 by jpg
good evening, some examples on dynamic balancing always around the ADXL335/345:
www.instructables.com/Simple-Rotor-Balancing-Machine/






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09 Oct 2022 19:58 #253822 by Bari
I vote for a HAL component vs built in. Keep things as flexible as possible.

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10 Oct 2022 02:16 #253843 by cmorley
The problem of maximum flexibility is it is also the hardest to configure/.
By being built in, it would also standardize the g/m codes to use it.

I did find my code on a old disk drive. I'll have to dust it off and look at the code to see if it's worth moving forward with presenting to anyone.

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