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Proper methods for a lathe tool changer?
10 years 6 months ago - 10 years 6 months ago #73065
by Fastest1
Proper methods for a lathe tool changer? was created by Fastest1
I am very new to LinuxCnc. I had quite a bit of experience in Mach3. There is no similarity between the 2 that I can see. Just different.
Presently I have LCNC version 2.7.4 installed and connected via parallel port to a Dyna Mechtronics DM3000 with a 6 position turret tool changer.
I have control of X and Z,. Limits and homing are working as intended. My spindle is operable and accurate to within a few rpm's with no index sensor so far. That was all pretty easy to set up and was similar to Mach.
I am not sure of exactly how to obtain or set up control of the 3rd axis (tool changer). It appears I might have to use Gmoccapy and or Glade to customize my GUI. If this is the case. Is the macro that I used in Mach able to be used with LCNC? It would seem the commands and GCode would be the same. Is there an advantage to using Glade or Gmoccapy? Is one safer?
Presently I have LCNC version 2.7.4 installed and connected via parallel port to a Dyna Mechtronics DM3000 with a 6 position turret tool changer.
I have control of X and Z,. Limits and homing are working as intended. My spindle is operable and accurate to within a few rpm's with no index sensor so far. That was all pretty easy to set up and was similar to Mach.
I am not sure of exactly how to obtain or set up control of the 3rd axis (tool changer). It appears I might have to use Gmoccapy and or Glade to customize my GUI. If this is the case. Is the macro that I used in Mach able to be used with LCNC? It would seem the commands and GCode would be the same. Is there an advantage to using Glade or Gmoccapy? Is one safer?
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10 years 6 months ago #73074
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic Proper methods for a lathe tool changer?
I used Classicladder to handle the tool change on my Harding CHNC.
gnipsel.com/shop/hardinge/hardinge.xhtml
JT
gnipsel.com/shop/hardinge/hardinge.xhtml
JT
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10 years 6 months ago #73107
by andypugh
It is hard to know how to control the tool changer without a little more information on the tool changer hardware and how it is configured.
Is it configured as a G-code controlled axis, or as a separate motor? How does the changer report-back carousel position?
Replied by andypugh on topic Proper methods for a lathe tool changer?
Fastest1 wrote: I am not sure of exactly how to obtain or set up control of the 3rd axis (tool changer). It appears I might have to use Gmoccapy and or Glade to customize my GUI. If this is the case. Is the macro that I used in Mach able to be used with LCNC? It would seem the commands and GCode would be the same. Is there an advantage to using Glade or Gmoccapy? Is one safer?
It is hard to know how to control the tool changer without a little more information on the tool changer hardware and how it is configured.
Is it configured as a G-code controlled axis, or as a separate motor? How does the changer report-back carousel position?
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10 years 6 months ago #73120
by Fastest1
Replied by Fastest1 on topic Proper methods for a lathe tool changer?
Andy, Thanks for the question. Sorry I didn't provide the info. The lathe itself is a Dyna Mechtronics DM3000
It is a 6 position vertically oriented changer. In the past when working with Mach I had it configured as an axis with steppers. The turret rotates 60 degrees per tool, then backs up against a pawl. Though the changer itself does have some various types of switches and solenoids that would even allow bidirectional access to tools. I have never seen anyone use it that way. I am not even sure I ever saw them do it running the original software (which I never had). To this date I have never had verification of tool position. Merely verify the correct tool was indicated at start up and work away.
During my conversion I have equipped the cabinet with the proper power supply and relay to operate the solenoid for the future. I do have a working copy of the Mach tool changer macro if that would help.
I have no clue as to how to rewrite a macro that would select which direction the turret would rotate for the fastest tool change.
I am using a Leadshine MX3660. I have the tool changers steppers connected on pins 6&7 (step/direction)
It is a 6 position vertically oriented changer. In the past when working with Mach I had it configured as an axis with steppers. The turret rotates 60 degrees per tool, then backs up against a pawl. Though the changer itself does have some various types of switches and solenoids that would even allow bidirectional access to tools. I have never seen anyone use it that way. I am not even sure I ever saw them do it running the original software (which I never had). To this date I have never had verification of tool position. Merely verify the correct tool was indicated at start up and work away.
During my conversion I have equipped the cabinet with the proper power supply and relay to operate the solenoid for the future. I do have a working copy of the Mach tool changer macro if that would help.
I have no clue as to how to rewrite a macro that would select which direction the turret would rotate for the fastest tool change.
I am using a Leadshine MX3660. I have the tool changers steppers connected on pins 6&7 (step/direction)
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10 years 6 months ago #73122
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Proper methods for a lathe tool changer?
A stepper backing-up against a pawl sounds a lot like the Boxford changer:
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Contri...oolchanger_component
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Contri...oolchanger_component
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10 years 6 months ago #73124
by Fastest1
Replied by Fastest1 on topic Proper methods for a lathe tool changer?
That does sound like a possibility with a few changes due to the 8 vs 6 tool changers.
Now if I can only figure out what to do with all of those files and how.
Now if I can only figure out what to do with all of those files and how.
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