PREEMPT-RT vs RTAI etc Explained ?

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4 years 1 month ago #252895 by andypugh

I really think that this should be added verbatim on the download page. This is so much easier to understand than what is currently written there, especially for new users.


When did you last look at the download page? I updated it a few days ago for the 2.8.4 release.

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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #252915 by JPL
Andy, I've looked at it. The problem is that most of us 'newbie' are coming from the windows world and know very few things about linux, if anything.

When I read something like "“linuxcnc-uspace” is compatible with the preempt-rt realtime kernel, which is close to standard Linux. This version runs in userspace like most other applications and will run with any preempt-rt kernel."  This raise more questions than answers:

What is the preempt-rt kernel?
standard linux? (is there a non standard linux???)
what is userspace?
And the big question: WHY is that important???
...
While the text on the download page is technically rich and correct it could be VERY hard to completely understand by anyone who is not deeply familiar with linux. It's simply a level higher than most new users are able to comprehend, which is in part why I can read so many places that linuxcnc is difficult to learn (or at least more difficult than some 'competitor') 

The text from PCW is talking to the average guy that doesn't know much beyond the basics, it is clear and give direct answer to questions like which one is the fastest or which one do I need with Mesa card without going 'too deep' into technical 'jargon'. The text on the download page is certainly excellent and needed for a deeper understanding of linux and linuxcnc but I think can be too 'technical' for any newbie.

But again, I really don't want to diminish the work you've done. This place is plain fantastic and I've never seen any other place where there's so many people willing to help. This is invaluable. The only thing that I think is missing is the basics ABC to get started with linuxcnc.

(With the utmost respect for your work) 



 
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4 years 1 month ago #253054 by andypugh
Maybe we need:

TLDR: Download this ISO file and install it....

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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #253071 by JPL
Nah, I don't think there's such a thing as too much information. My past experiences (I was a teacher for a while) is just telling me that the easy stuff should always be put first then the complicated stuff (explanation) after it. The average brain will just stop learning after reading a few concepts that are 'out of range'. Threshold vary among individual but best way to keep people engaged is to first KISS.

Maybe simply put this text first:
Warning: Spoiler!


Then the text that was previously above it would go after it. But at this point users will already had the essential info and not 'scared away' image missing /media/kunena/emoticons/w00t.png

 
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