Heidenhain Encoder - strange waveform help request

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10 Mar 2022 00:13 #236799 by Ivan_The_Red
I hooked up my spindle encoder which is a 420 series Heidenhain to my oscilloscope and even though the encoder is listed as a square wave TTL encoder , I saw a sine wave? Upon rotating the encoder shaft the scope showed what looked like a TTL square wave going on inside of a sine wave. I really dont know what to think of it but would like to know if thats normal. If its normal, is there anything special i need to do with my HAL file to deal with the strange waveform or do I just treat it like its a regular square wave signal. Im using a MESA 7I76 and 5125 for the interface.

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10 Mar 2022 04:14 #236812 by scotth
Try here.
www.heidenhain.us › wp-content › uploads › 349529-2H_Rotary_Encoders_en.pdf

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11 Mar 2022 00:45 #236910 by Ivan_The_Red
Replied by Ivan_The_Red on topic Heidenhain Encoder - strange waveform help request
Well oscilloscopes tend to work better when you remember to hook up the probe grounds.....hahahaha...problem solved

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11 Mar 2022 04:43 #236915 by scotth
Good. All I could find was 5Volt supply TTL square wave in a 420 encoder.

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05 Jan 2023 20:12 - 05 Jan 2023 20:17 #261031 by fons
i have a liniair scale LS904 ml 370 from heidenhain on me mile machine  
i'm not sure  if the scale is broken or  the input  of the controle unit fails  
how can i find out if the scale work wel  ?
what is de basic set up ?
just power  5vdc  on  pin 3and  4 ?
when i use a scope between ground and  an output  what signal do i have to find  or do i need a pull up or down  resistor  ?
i found  in an old document  somthing like  15microampere on the output  
do someone know how to test the scale  
 
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05 Jan 2023 20:56 - 05 Jan 2023 20:57 #261033 by PCW
These encoders typically need an interpolator interface card
(EXE series)
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05 Jan 2023 21:40 #261036 by fons
it would be  a sinus output  

is the a way to  controle if the scale  is still ok  ?

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05 Jan 2023 21:56 - 05 Jan 2023 21:56 #261039 by PCW
Yes, but you will need the interpolator box that converts
the 11 uA Sine/Cosine outputs of the scale to higher resolution
TTL quadrature signals.

These (EXE boxes) are commonly available on Ebay
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05 Jan 2023 22:08 - 05 Jan 2023 22:09 #261042 by scotth
EXE box 101 o r 102.

 
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06 Jan 2023 05:32 #261065 by sivaraj
What controller you have on the machine ?
If it is old Heidenhain controller , then directly supporting the 11uA encoder so no EXE will be present .
If other brand controller obviously there will be EXE to convert into TTL quadrature .
To test whether 11uA scale head is alive , you may check for current flow by applying supply to pin (3)5V & (4)0V .
If no current flow observed then LED is dead and reader head wont work
For other pins 1&2 5&6 7&8 you can check with multi-meter on diode check mode.
or If supply connected to 3&4 , you can observe resistance will change on 1&2 5&6 7&8
This is the simplest method to know scale is working.

If you have access to old Heidenhain DRO you can quickly check the scale

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