Resolution and speed with servo motor
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06 Jan 2025 06:39 #318199
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Hello guys,
I have a rpi5 + parralel port rpi hat + 5 axis cnc interface adapter and asdab2 servo driver
my hal file
steplen 1
stepspace 0
dirhold and dirsetup 60000
scale is 20 (1 motor rotation = 10 mm = 200 pulse)
max velocity is 30000 mm/min is equal 500 in ini file
the problem is in scale and speed
if i make jog speed to 30000 servo graphic is in attachments
when i increase the "scale" speed is going down and sometimes linuxcnc has following 0 error
for example scale is 20 and 15000mm/min speed i take
if i decrase the "scale" for example 8 speed is going to high but i think resolution is not enough
i tried to change steplen, stepspace, maxaccel etc but nothing changed. generally program give me following error
and also one thing pid is not in my hal and ini file
I have a rpi5 + parralel port rpi hat + 5 axis cnc interface adapter and asdab2 servo driver
my hal file
steplen 1
stepspace 0
dirhold and dirsetup 60000
scale is 20 (1 motor rotation = 10 mm = 200 pulse)
max velocity is 30000 mm/min is equal 500 in ini file
the problem is in scale and speed
if i make jog speed to 30000 servo graphic is in attachments
when i increase the "scale" speed is going down and sometimes linuxcnc has following 0 error
for example scale is 20 and 15000mm/min speed i take
if i decrase the "scale" for example 8 speed is going to high but i think resolution is not enough
i tried to change steplen, stepspace, maxaccel etc but nothing changed. generally program give me following error
and also one thing pid is not in my hal and ini file
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06 Jan 2025 11:36 #318207
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anyone update?
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06 Jan 2025 17:49 #318245
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It's likely that you base thread period is limiting the maximum step rate
What is you base thread period?
Not sure if the GPIO connected stepgen can do reset mode like a
PC parallel port, but that that would help.
What is you base thread period?
Not sure if the GPIO connected stepgen can do reset mode like a
PC parallel port, but that that would help.
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06 Jan 2025 21:13 #318263
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dirhold and dirsetup are the restrictions i think
I have the same issue on mine. I had to increase them to 20000 which in turn restricted my top speed to 12m/m (with my screw and steps per turn of course)
I need to refine this. 5000 drops steps, but 20k is overkill.
60000 seems very extreme. is there a reason you have it set that high?
I have the same issue on mine. I had to increase them to 20000 which in turn restricted my top speed to 12m/m (with my screw and steps per turn of course)
I need to refine this. 5000 drops steps, but 20k is overkill.
60000 seems very extreme. is there a reason you have it set that high?
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06 Jan 2025 21:31 #318264
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Direction setup and hold timing should have no effect on maximum speed
as the direction is only changed at zero velocity. Step length and Step space
do affect the maximum step rate.
as the direction is only changed at zero velocity. Step length and Step space
do affect the maximum step rate.
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06 Jan 2025 21:39 #318265
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gah. yes, i got those backwards.
"nevermind'
"nevermind'
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08 Jan 2025 06:31 #318379
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hello
base period = 100 000
servo period = 1 000 000
steplen = 1
step space = 0
scale is 10
my one rotation is 10mm
so that scale*1 rotation is 100 pulse
i need to make >500 pulses for one rotation
if i make 100 scale
the speed is going down and linuxcnc give me following 0 error(axis x following error)
base period = 100 000
servo period = 1 000 000
steplen = 1
step space = 0
scale is 10
my one rotation is 10mm
so that scale*1 rotation is 100 pulse
i need to make >500 pulses for one rotation
if i make 100 scale
the speed is going down and linuxcnc give me following 0 error(axis x following error)
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08 Jan 2025 13:57 #318406
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anyone was find solution?
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08 Jan 2025 16:53 #318425
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With your existing hardware, lowering the base thread value
is the only thing you can do. How low you can lower it depends
on the kernel (turbo mode etc) and isolcpu settings.
Did you run a latency test? (why did you choose such a long base thread period?)
is the only thing you can do. How low you can lower it depends
on the kernel (turbo mode etc) and isolcpu settings.
Did you run a latency test? (why did you choose such a long base thread period?)
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09 Jan 2025 09:02 #318516
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hello PCW
Actually i download ini and hal file from byte2bot com because i bought parallel port rpi hat card from there
the latency test writing
Servo thread(1ms) max interval : 1003960ns | max jitter 3960 ns | last interval ~ 1 000 000 ns
Base thread (25 us) max interval : 30111ns | max jitter 5686 ns | last interval 25000ns
Should I change the base period and servo period values?
Thanks
Actually i download ini and hal file from byte2bot com because i bought parallel port rpi hat card from there
the latency test writing
Servo thread(1ms) max interval : 1003960ns | max jitter 3960 ns | last interval ~ 1 000 000 ns
Base thread (25 us) max interval : 30111ns | max jitter 5686 ns | last interval 25000ns
Should I change the base period and servo period values?
Thanks
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