EasyProbe + PGFUN 3D probe

I had trouble installing Verser's v2.9 probing screen for the Axis GUI.  Eventually I decided to try EasyProbe.  Easy enough, except that the pocket probing function has a constant that only works for metric.  But if you change ff_distance from 5 mm to 0.2, it appears that everything works.

EasyProbe allows you to calibrate the probe tip, which avoids the complication of using an indicator to get the probe tip colinear with the axis of the spindle.  The drawback is you must measure with the probe oriented as it was during calibration.  Here's my calibration setup

 

The ring gage is 1.0060 inches
 

After calibration, the I probed the pocket a few times.  The measured diameters varied from the standard by

1. 0.000,014 inches
2. 0.000,006 
3. 0.000,114
4. 0.000,097

I would only believe this to a tenth (+/- 0.000,1 in).  But it's not bad for a probe tip that is off axis by almost 2 thou.

While working with EasyProbe, I encountered manual tool changing for the first time, with rapids set to 200 IPM.  I had also set TOOL_CHANGE_QUILL_UP, which almost smashed the probe into the table.  I had set up the axes using the right hand rule, with +Y moving away from the operator.  This requires that +Z is up.  I turned off the quill-up setting but had several close calls because M6 rapids the spindle to the tool change location, not caring about the Z position.  So I've got to reverse the Y axis so I can take advantage of the quill-up setting.  

Looks like the ring is past its due date.

(whatever that means)

After fooling around for a while, I decided to retain the positive-Z-up configuration. It's basically what modern CNC machines expect, I gather. Also, EasyProbe doesn't work in the positive-Z-down configuration.

Hehe,

yes, I never ever thought about having z positive down

Oops.  I'll have to add an interlock for the probe when it's in storage, on the right column. 

 

Getting the gage length of the probe isn't as easy as normal tooling.  It's a dual-contact spindle nose, so normally you can measure the length of tools on the surface plate.  But with the added variable of Z travel in the probe, you can't measure directly.  I ended up touching off on the 1-2-3 block and doing the guess-and-check on a gage-block stack to find the length.  A big gage block, adjustable parallels, and a micrometer would have been less dramatic but I didn't think of that until later.

 
 

One of the safest way to have the probe and the tool touch sensor on the same hight would be to install a rigid piece of metal and facing it with an meassured tool. After that calibration of the probe with this new face.

Btw. Cool machine. Do you have somewhere more info about it? Right now I retrofitting a Kuhlmann P20. Looks quite similar.

It's from LY CNC, which you can find on Alibaba. This is the 3040 model. I watched Stephan Gotteswinter's video about his new micro mill, and was inspired to do something similar. It was going to be difficult to get the same epoxy-granite frame he started with, here in the states. This cast-iron frame was a similar design, so I decided to try it out. There was a fair amount of waiting involved but the machine seems fairly sound.

With the spindle half-way down, I'm getting 0.000,5 in (13 microns) deflection with 20 lbf (88 N) pressing against the spindle nose. I think those are similar numbers to Gotteswinter's thumb test.

I got out the master square to check the perpendicularity of the X and Y axes. They're very square--within a few tenths (0.000,1 inch = 3 microns) over 10 inches (250 mm). The YZ plane leans back about 0.002" over the 7 inch travel of Z. In the XZ plane, there's 0.003" deviation over the same distance. I might eventually try to correct that but the parts I'm making are fairly small, so maybe it won't be a problem.

Do you have a thread about your retrofit?

Ah cool. I think this is a good example for the fact that you can get quality in China if you are willing to pay for it. Looks good.

I dont have a thread for my current project. It was a fast decision thing, because the price was low. Looks smaller on the picture than in real life. Weights 500kg (machine + table). Dont have the fancy pc table .

Old Berger Lahr 5 phase steppers. Drives invented 1987. Machine is build in 1992. I want to safe the old drives, because I like to maintain such old hardware. I already ordered some caps for replacement (known as fault reasons).

Machine is all cast iron! But with supported round rails instead of linear rails. But I will keep them. It will be sufficient for al lot of my work. Travel is 400x400x100. Machine is only 900x800xhight (didnt meassured it yet).

The LY mill has 300 (X) by 400 (Y) mm travel and about 180 in Z. The overall machine is 1000 mm deep, 600 wide, and 600 high. Weight is 375 kg.

Re-capping a few boards seems manageable. There is less patience for old electronics. I think it reflects a lack of widespread electronics knowledge.

That PC stand is something else.

These were sold as engraving machines. I assume a spindle/VFD upgrade is in order?Will you be doing anything beyond aluminum?

In my experience, old electronics actually seem to funtion suprisingly well with old, worn-out caps.

Though you can buy good caps from LCSC.com for very cheap.