why spindle speed is dropping?

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24 Dec 2012 02:27 - 24 Dec 2012 02:38 #27985 by viski
Lathe config in made with PnCConf and spindle speed. At now it is in open loop but i am going to made closed loop spindle with gear reduction.

Mesa m5i20 + 7i33TA analog output card

Why does it dropping ?
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24 Dec 2012 02:33 #27986 by PCW
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Can you explain a little more what you mean by 'dropping' ?

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24 Dec 2012 02:50 #27987 by viski

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24 Dec 2012 03:18 #27988 by PCW
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Can you check the analog output voltage of the 7I33 channel you are using for the spindle?

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24 Dec 2012 03:49 #27989 by viski
Yes ,i can.
I will do it tommorow.

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26 Dec 2012 21:40 #28043 by viski
problem solved :). encoder.counter-mode set to 1 ( true) and it work.

Now , how to make 0- 10 V output for spindle controll from 0 - 1600 rpm ?

my hal file


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26 Dec 2012 23:41 #28044 by PCW
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This should be done by setting the pwm scale of the pwmgen that drives the spindle output to 1600
I expect this is done in this line:

setp hm2_5i20.0.pwmgen.03.scale [SPINDLE_9]OUTPUT_SCALE

but you would have to check your .ini file to see if [SPINDLE_9]OUTPUT_SCALE is set

(or look at hm2_5i20.0.pwmgen.03.scale with halmeter)

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27 Dec 2012 02:23 #28055 by viski
pwm.output-type 3 ( PDM ) . I need absolute 0- 10 v output . At now when i run m3 i get positive output but with m4 i get negative output. How to solve this problem?

When machine is not enabled ,speendle speed is correct. When i turn machine ON speendle speed is growing :S
What should be wrong?

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27 Dec 2012 03:03 #28058 by PCW
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spindle-vel-cmd needs to be run through an abs component for 0 to +10 spindles

the indicated velocity growth might have something to do with the lowpass filter. The actual spindle should be disabled with machine off

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27 Dec 2012 20:01 #28084 by viski
Pid feedback spindle is working :).

Any ideas how to add abs comp to get 0-10 Volt output always?
If i add abs.0.out after sum2.0.out i get error mesage: ' spindle-vel-cmd allready has an output sum2.0.out pin! '

How can i solve problem?


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