MPG working with joint but not with axis ???

This is portion of the HAL file (mostly) generated by PncConf:

# ---jogwheel signals to mesa encoder - x axis MPG---
net x-jog-count          <=  hm2_7i92.0.7i77.0.0.enc0.count

#  ---mpg signals---
setp    axis.x.jog-vel-mode 0
net x-jog-enable         =>  axis.x.jog-enable
net x-jog-count          =>  axis.x.jog-counts
net selected-jog-incr    =>  axis.x.jog-scale
sets x-jog-enable    true
sets selected-jog-incr     1.00000

This is NOT working, although axis.x.jog-counts is updated correctly.

Now, replacing axis.x with joint.0 as below make this work correctly:
#  ---mpg signals---
#setp  joint.0.jog-vel-mode 0
#net x-jog-enable         =>  joint.0.jog-enable
#net x-jog-count          =>  joint.0.jog-counts
#net selected-jog-incr    =>  joint.0.jog-scale
#sets x-jog-enable    true
#sets selected-jog-incr     1.00000

Can someone explain why this work only with joint ???

To confirm it won't jog axis _after_ homing?

The original version generated by pncconf (with axis.x) is not working at all. Neither before or after homing.

The modified version with joint.0 is working both before and after homing.

(I can jog using the interface jog button with both versions ( with axis.x or joint.0))

Note that my config does not require homing before MDI/running. I'm really wondering since I'm using the downloadable 'official' ISO v2.8.2 (now updated to 2.8.3).

can you post all your config flles?
You can jog a joint before homing.
Jogging an axis requires homing.
There are no axis until a joint is homed.

See 'JPL_test03.hal' attached. This is working with the file with 'joint.0'as it is but have a look at the lines after  "---mpg signals". If I uncomment the original 6 lines generated by pncConf and comment the 6 lines right after that this will not work, which is puzzling me.

Also note that my version of pncConf is still generating the "setp hm2_7i92.0.stepgen.timer-number 1" line that I commented (lines 28 and 29). This is obviously wrong since I'm using 7i92 -> 7i77, thus no stepgen.

Thanks for having a look.

 

There are no axis until a joint is homed.

But what if it NO_FORCE_HOMING is set to 1 as I did ?

That allows you to jog In joint mode before homing.

You must home to jog as an axis.

Tested again... same results...

- Home axis x with the "HOME AXIS" button
- Verified that 'x-is-homed' signal is TRUE  (using 'show hal configuration')
- Result: X axis does NOT move with the MPG
...

- Changed 'axis.x' to 'joint.0' in hal file  (4 places as shown in the uploaded file)
- Restart LinuxCnc
- Now I can jog with the MPG both before and after homing


 

Something sounds odd in your config.  I have been using a 6 axis mpg with axis counts for about 5 years.
But I always home the machine with home all before I use the MPG. 
In fact I don't even even think about moving anything until the machine is homed.
I think all axes likely need homing before your MPG is used..

You can jog in joint or axis mode - they are just separate in 2.8 +
Choosing to allow jogging before homing is an integrator choice.

But jogging the joint after homing doesn't seem right. You usually have to set it back into joint mode IIRC.

Seems I'm missing something.